Qantas Airbus A330 Fleet Refurbishment

[Wenglock M]

Looks like VH-EBD will be the next A332 to be refurbished.

It looks like one of the ex-JQ birds will be running BNE-SYD-BNE-PER-BNE tomorrow (503/512/651/594). EBC is in SYD so I'm guessing it's EBD.

It looks like EBC will then do SYD-BNE-SYD-BNE-SYD (520/529/536/549).

So neither of them are going into the hangar tomorrow.

[Christopher Campbell]

Ok thank you for the correction. As I said I was only guessing. Where do you find that specific of information about what airframes are flying where?

[Zac M]

EBE departing Brisbane yesterday.
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/644/22531369666_60c06cbb78_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Ak2adN)VH-EBE (https://flic.kr/p/Ak2adN) by Zac Mathes (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacmathes/), on Flickr

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5787/21936134823_d3ae3159c0_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zqqqD6)VH-EBE (https://flic.kr/p/zqqqD6) by Zac Mathes (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zacmathes/), on Flickr

[Christopher Campbell]

Well it does look like VH-EBD entered Brisbane maintenance for reconfiguration. Can anyone confirm this?

[Alex T]

EBD is still in service, it's expected to operate QF651 this morning along with EBC which will be operating QF589. Saturday's are usually the quietest times to fly so QF tend to substitute the A332 for a B738 on the East-West Coast flights (that's why EBD hasn't flown since yesterday morning).

[Christopher Campbell]

Ok, thanks. I understand. I'm not quite as educated as most of you guys here. Sorry if I seem a bit obtuse from time to time.

[NathanJ]

The 8 PTV fitted aircraft will be used on both domestic and international routes.

If this is indeed true. Surely the focus will be in this area of the fleet rather than domestic only aircraft...

[MarkR]

No real difference between the seat back and IPads though, both have the option of being used gate to gate and same content, while the streaming does give those the option to use their own possibly larger device. The streaming birds have better legroom iirc.

[NathanJ]

I see... I would have thought the major difference was that they will provide flexibility in flying international as well as domestic missions. *shrug*

[Dennis McLean]

The interesting thing about the refurbishment is that only 2 out of the 8 that will also fly on International routes EBS and EBV have been done. Of course both EBG and EBL are also available so that gives 4 but with different configurations, must be a headache for the schedulers. There is no sign yet of EBJ coming out yet, been in now for 16 days??? Does anyone know what is being done to it?

[Zac M]

Probably just due for a C-Check. Interesting to note that the first PER-AKL rotation of the year was done by domestic config VH-EBN.

[Fred C]

EBJ due to be flying on Wed.

[Zac M]

EBQ goes into the hanger on Wednesday, unclear whether this is for reconfig or just a maintenance check.

[Fred C]

EBQ appears to be a maintenance check only.

[NathanJ]

The suspense is killing me!!!

[Zac M]

VH-QPG is due to ferry to SIN today (5 November) as QF6001, possible repaint?

[Wenglock M]

Nope - it's ferrying up to operate a charter flight to Rockhampton (QF6032).

[Christopher Campbell]

When is the next A332 enter Brisbane maintenance for reconfig?

[NathanJ]

Is there an A332 that will soon enter Brisbane maintenance for reconfig?

So exciting! I wonder which one it could be! :cool:

[Fred C]

Excitement over! Its EBC on Friday the 13th.

[Garry Emanuel]

And on the 333 front, F is current, any ideas on due completion and which is next ?

Thanks in advance.

[C Patters]

Does anyone know a date of when EBE will return from Singapore?

[Zac M]

If timeframes for previous paints are similar then you would expect over the weekend or very early next week.

[Fred C]

Spot on Zac! Due into SYD on Tue.

[Wenglock M]

Spot on Zac! Due into SYD on Tue.

QF6012 is showing up on Changi's flight board as a 10.15 departure on Tuesday, 17 November, bound for SYD.

I am guessing that's probably VH-EBE.

[Chris Q]

Lucky for me I'm 6E tomorrow on qf575 with the new suite !

[NathanJ]

VH-EBA is operating QF41 to Jakarta today.

[C Patters]

Was there a delay in EBE returning from Singapore as I can't seem to see it arriving into SYD as previously noted above yesterday?

[Rowan McKeever]

10.15 Tuesday, so today :)

[C Patters]

Great thanks Rowan!

[Christopher Campbell]

10.15 Tuesday, so today :)
10:15 Singapore time?

[Rowan McKeever]

I would say so as the SYD website has QF6010 (and QF6012, bizarrely!) due from SIN at 9.15pm. It also hasn't shown up on flightaware which makes it even more likely it's SIN time.

[Dennis McLean]

EBE on its way now, as QFA6012 due SYD 21.25 AEDT

[Christopher Campbell]

Is EBC going into refurbishment this evening?

[Zac M]

EBC is off to Perth as we speak. From the previous page she was meant to go in on the 13th so Im thinking something in the network has thrown the schedules out a bit, have noticed that EBS has been in BNE for a few days though.

[Fred C]

EBS is in BNE for maint until the 25th NOV. Then EBC goes in for maint and reconfig on the 25th.

[Jim M]

Any idea when EBE will enter service?

[Wenglock M]

Im thinking something in the network has thrown the schedules out a bit, have noticed that EBS has been in BNE for a few days though.

According to the GDS, either one of EBC or EBD at this stage will be operating the QF81 to SIN this coming Saturday. So yes, something is indeed a little bit out of whack (well, either that or someone uploaded the wrong seatmap). I would have thought they would have had much more suitable options than a non-refurbished ex-JQ bird.

[Zac M]

EBE is operating QF405 this morning

[Jim M]

Thanks Zac. Looks like today is her first day of service.
Any idea if EBE has been given a name?

Cheers Jim

[Zac M]

Yeah, first day today.

Thankfully for the pax on QF81 on Saturday it appears that theres a change and EBE will now operate.

[Adam W]

Any idea if EBE has been given a name?

Kangaroo Valley

[Jim M]

Thanks for the info Adam. Much appreciated.

Jim

[Jim M]

Interesting point, of late a few of the Domestic configured 332's have been doing some International routes, particularly CGK.
EBA has operated the 41/42 service a number of times, and surprisingly EBJ is operating it today. EBE operated it yesterday, after arriving back from SIN on Sunday morning as was previously mentioned.
Can anyone shed anymore light? I know it happens occasionally, but lately it's been more.
I'm assuming part of the reason is that QPF is still under maintenance etc.

Cheers
Jim

[Christopher Campbell]

Also EBS is been in maintenance as well which also occasionally operates internationally.

[Brad Myer]

QF are short of international A330s.

VH-EBS will be back in service this week meaning the non PTV A332s will no longer be required for the CGK run.

Once more PTV fitted A332s get the new biz class QF will have a lot more flexibility and we shouldn't see non PTV A332s on international.

Only 2 PTV fitted A332s have been upgraded at this stage EBV/EBS both of which have been operating both international and domestic routes.

[Adam W]

Also the PER-AKL flights so far have been operated by non refurbished domestic aircraft(EBM and EBN). These flights have previously been operated by international configured 332's. They still effectively have 4 international configured 332's, EBG, EBL. EBS and EBV.

[Jim M]

Since returning to service with QF, EBE has been named, but has EBF?
Can't seem to find anything anywhere.

Jim

[Wenglock M]

Since returning to service with QF, EBE has been named, but has EBF?

Hi Jim

EBF is King Valley.

Cheers,
w.

[Ash W]

Something odd with the Qantas seat maps. Despite both EBV and EBS essentially being the same config they both have their own seatmap page.

The difference is EBS says it is 28J/237Y with 6 crew rest when operating international (last 3 rows port side) but EBV says it is 27J/239Y with 5 crew rest (last 2 rows port side and starboard side J behind door 2R). Wonder why the difference? You would think they would be the same.

[Dave C]

That would be for the Tech Crew rest (the J seat). Not sure why they have less cabin crew rest though.

[Ash W]

Yeah, but why are EBS and EBV different? Guess that's the core question.

[Rowan McKeever]

EBS was originally a JQ aircraft - may or may not be relevant. Could be that they just left the curtain in place from JQ ops and that means only 4 seats (rather than up to 8) are behind the curtain.

FWIW I'd suggest the J seat on EBV is mislabelled as CCR and should actually be TCR (tech crew rest, for the pilots).

[Christopher Campbell]

Could EBC heading to Brisbane tonight from Perth since EBS has left Brisbane maintenance today

[MarkR]

EBS was originally a JQ aircraft - may or may not be relevant. Could be that they just left the curtain in place from JQ ops and that means only 4 seats (rather than up to 8) are behind the curtain.

FWIW I'd suggest the J seat on EBV is mislabelled as CCR and should actually be TCR (tech crew rest, for the pilots).

EBV tech crew rest would be in the cockpit being a QF bird, which the new build JQ birds don't have ( ie EBS) from what I understand.

[Zac M]

Correct Christopher, subject to change EBC will operate the red eye tonight woth EBS taking up QF589.

[Christopher Campbell]

QF652 you are referring to I'm guessing

[Jim M]

Hi Jim

EBF is King Valley.

Cheers,
w.

Cheers Wenglock, much appreciated.

Jim

[Adam W]

EBV tech crew rest would be in the cockpit being a QF bird, which the new build JQ birds don't have ( ie EBS) from what I understand.

No built in tech crew rest on EBV. The only 332's with these are EBG, EBH, EBI and EBL.

[Ash W]

EBV tech crew rest would be in the cockpit being a QF bird, which the new build JQ birds don't have ( ie EBS) from what I understand.

EBV is the one showing the tech crew rest in the J cabin.

Besides I don't think there were any differences between EBV and the latter JQ birds anyway. There may have been some subtle differences such as curtain locations for example, but you would have thought during the refurb they would have changed them to match. Otherwise they will have one aircraft that they can only sell 27J seats when operating international whereas the rest will be 28.

[Zac M]

I missed the fact that EBS went back into service operating a heavily delayed QF589 yesterday, this appears to be due to an issue with EBF. It appears EBC will be operating QF589 today, so its reconfig will be delayed further

[Christopher Campbell]

Flight aware says that EBF will be operating QF589 in half an hour.

[Christopher Campbell]

EBF is doing QF589, so that means EBC is in finally in maintenance for refurb?

[Dom Fortey]

I missed the fact that EBS went back into service operating a heavily delayed QF589 yesterday, this appears to be due to an issue with EBF. It appears EBC will be operating QF589 today, so its reconfig will be delayed further

EBF has had an airstart unit attached the last couple of times I've seen it in BNE

[Christopher Campbell]

what's an air start unit?

[Rowan McKeever]

It's a cart that provides (compressed?) air for the air-conditioning and to start an engine with... things the APU would normally do, so sounds like EBF has a failed APU.

[Christopher Campbell]

Ok thanks

[C Patters]

Does anyone know if a date has been set yet for QPF to undergo its test flight following maintenance/refurbishment?

[Peter I]

I am flying Business on QF 23 on January 20th and enquiring if this plane will be done up with the new Business Class seats.
I noticed the other day that it was so I changed my seat but next day it changed again to the older seating so I had to change my seats again.
Thanking You

[Ash W]

What ever the seat map says, but as you have seen it can change.

And for others without a booking, go to expert flyer. You can create a free account or log in with facebook and do a search (create seat alert) for you flight and it will show you the seat map and what seats are free at the time. Some more advanced features you need a paid account, but a simple search is free.

[Christopher Campbell]

Does anyone know when QPF going to be flying, it's been over 9 weeks since it went in for refurb?

[Dennis McLean]

NO, but could be any day now as the 333's have been taking just over 2 months except for QPI. EBC should be out around Christmas Day as it has been in since 25 November, but perhaps with the holidays it may be a bit longer, anyone's guess???

[Fred C]

QPF due out of heavy on the 11th Dec. Test flight a couple of days earlier.

[Christopher Campbell]

so test flight this evening?

[Fred C]

Its changed, as these things do. Test Flight 11th. Flying 12th.

[C Patters]

Great thanks Fred! Which rego is heading into the hanger next for a refurb?

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-QPF scheduled for QF6100 Brisbane-Brisbane test flight from 11:00am-11:43am AEDT

[Christopher Campbell]

Is it QPH in for refurb which arrived in Brisbane after operating QF61/62 this early this morning?

[Christopher Campbell]

QPF back in service operating QF97

[Christopher Campbell]

will QPG - QPJ undergo heavy maintence C8 checks when they go for refurbishment?

[Rowan McKeever]

QPH is scheduled on QF51 to SIN today

[Christopher Campbell]

That's strange, why not EBS I wonder?

[Fred C]

I suspect there will be no reconfigs over Christmas, New Year as the airline will need the aircraft flying during this period. They will probably start up early next year.

[Christopher Campbell]

Will they stop refurbishing on EBC then until early January or just don't start any refurbishments in any more aircraft?

[Fred C]

They will of course finish EBC before Christmas.

[Dennis McLean]

QPF arrived in BNE on 98 from its first flight to HKG Sunday, and was replaced by QPH which had arrived from SIN on 52. EBS which had arrived on Saturday from SIN on 52 did not move till Sunday when it went back to SIN on 51.

Today Monday, EBS arrived back from SIN on 52 at 06.00, but QPH is not due from HKG till 08.45, delayed. QPI has been on 61/62 to NRT both Sat and Sun.

What has happened to QPF after 2 flights, I guess a slight problem that has to be fixed??

[Fred C]

QPF will be going to HKG today as the QF 9.

[Christopher Campbell]

So QPH will finally going into refurb?

[C Patters]

Doesn't look like QPH has entered the hanger yet.........its currently operating QF97 to Hong Kong. QPI is not flying today after arriving from Tokyo this morning & QPD operated Syd - Melb - Syd rotation this morning. Some strange aircraft rotations going on at the moment. EBS has been operating the QF51/52 service for a few days now.

[Fred C]

QPH is not going to have a check or a reconfig until the new year, as per previous post.

QPI is in BNE for a 10 day heavy visit.

[MarkR]

Doesn't look like QPH has entered the hanger yet.........its currently operating QF97 to Hong Kong. QPI is not flying today after arriving from Tokyo this morning & QPD operated Syd - Melb - Syd rotation this morning. Some strange aircraft rotations going on at the moment. EBS has been operating the QF51/52 service for a few days now.

Welcome to peak season and all hands on deck.

[Dennis McLean]

EBC is parked outside the QF hanger in BNE, looks like it is ready to go. No sign of QPI, but guess it is still inside as only one door was open. Also there was one of the RAAF's 332's but could not see it's number, must be hidden well?? As I was about to leave a tug towed Jetstar's Q300 TQD (from somewhere??) and placed it adjacent to the RAAF machine.

Merry Christmas all.

[Brad Myer]

EBC back in service today...

[Brad Myer]

I assume no refurbs over the peak holiday period?

[Christopher Campbell]

What's happening with QPH? Hasn't flown since operating QF98 on the 27/28th?

[Ash W]

Aircraft are strange things and from time to time need something called maintenance, which cannot be done whilst the aircraft is flying. They key is look where it last landed. Brisbane, which is where A330 maintenance is done.

Also conceivable it has gone in for refit too.

[Christopher Campbell]

Aircraft are strange things and from time to time need something called maintenance, which cannot be done whilst the aircraft is flying. They key is look where it last landed. Brisbane, which is where A330 maintenance is done.

Also conceivable it has gone in for refit too.

No way!! really I thourght they could do maintenance in the air with two aircraft flying together!


Could it be in for refurb?

[Rowan McKeever]

QPH was back in service on the 1st with QF61/62 then ferried BNE-SYD yesterday (2nd) before operating to SIN.

[C Patters]

Anyone know when the refurbs will recommence?

[Zac M]

At this point in time it appears EBD will go in on Wednesday when EBK is released from maintenance.

[Fred C]

QPH is starting a reconfiguration on Saturday.

[C Patters]

Great news.....thanks guys!
Fred any word on the A330 repaints yet?

[Dennis McLean]

QPH is currently on the way to SIN on QFA81, perhaps it will return to BNE Sunday????? for overhaul??

[Max C]

QPC is U/S in SYD so QPH had to fill in.

[Brad Myer]

VH-QPC is back in service.

VH-QPH has entered the hanger for cabin upgrade.

VH-EBD is scheduled to begin cabin upgrade next week.

[Stephen Brown]

Hey all,

Any info on the International -200's?? Looks like I have a trip to Singapore coming up and from what I see it looks like old product at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

[Ash W]

What info do you want to know Stephen?

The international 200's are no different to the international -200's excpet J is spread over two cabins.

Like any aircraft subs can happen. In the case of the 200's to Singapore you will get one of the old international 200's or a refurb domestic -200 a/c. To start with Qantas were only using EBS and EBV internationally but now use any refurbished domestic a/c and very very occasionally a non refurb domestic.

In J using (refurb) domestic makes no difference. In Y if EBS or EBV you get fixed screen IFE otherwise supplied IPads. IFE content is the same though. One other thing if they use a domestic -200 they don't carry duty free. I assume the galley isn't big enough for the carts.

[Stephen Brown]

Thanks Ash.

Going in J, just wanted to know which ones have the new product and which ones don't.

[Zac M]

Going in J you will either get EBG or L (old product) or one of the newly reconfigured ones. to keep everyone up to date I will provide a full list of A330s and their current product, if you want the specific config for a certain flight/date, Expert flyer is really good for that!

A330-200s
EBA-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBB-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBC-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBD-Old JQ product with Q-Streaming fitted throughout (in for refurb this week)
EBE-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBF-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBG-MkI Skybed with Rockwell Collins Entertainment System
EBJ-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBK-J Suites with Q-Streaming in Y
EBL-MkI Skybed with Rockwell Collins Entertainment System
EBM-Silverwing J seat with Panasonic Entertainment System (v1)
EBN-Silverwing J seat with Panasonic Entertainment System (v1)
EBO-Recaro J Seat with Panasonic Entertainment System (v1)
EBQ- Recaro J Seat with Panasonic Entertainment System (v1)
EBR-Recaro J Seat with Panasonic Entertainment System (v1)
EBS-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
EBV-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)

A330-300
QPA-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPB-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPC-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPD-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPE-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPF-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPG-MkI Skybed with Rockwell Collins Entertainment System
QPH-MkI Skybed with Rockwell Collins Entertainment System (Under Refurb)
QPI-J Suites with Panasonic Entertainment System (v2)
QPJ-MkI Skybed with Rockwell Collins Entertainment System

[Gareth U]

In J using (refurb) domestic makes no difference. In Y if EBS or EBV you get fixed screen IFE otherwise supplied IPads. IFE content is the same though. One other thing if they use a domestic -200 they don't carry duty free. I assume the galley isn't big enough for the carts.

It is my belief that while both cabins on the -300s have the new eX3 IFE system, it is only J on the refurbished -200s with the eX3. The fixed entertainment in Y on the refurbished -200s is a different offering. The content available on the iPads is different again, of course.

This from a public media release. It is certainly consistent with my experience.

"Customers in both cabins on the international A330 aircraft will be able to enjoy the latest Panasonic eX3 inflight entertainment system, with larger seatback touchscreens in addition to Q Streaming technology, enabling them to stream content from an extensive entertainment library directly to their own devices.

Domestic Business Class customers on A330 aircraft will also enjoy the same Panasonic eX3 system, while Economy customers will have an individual inflight entertainment experience through either seatback touchscreens or devices provided by Qantas in every seat."

[C Patters]

Does anyone know if EBD is going in for its refurb soon as EBK has returned to service today?

[Ash W]

It is my belief that while both cabins on the -300s have the new eX3 IFE system, it is only J on the refurbished -200s with the eX3. The fixed entertainment in Y on the refurbished -200s is a different offering. The content available on the iPads is different again, of course.

"

EBS and EBV have eX2 in economy, but the content is the same as in J.

I flew economy in EBV a few weeks back and returned on EBE and J and I couldn't tell the difference. My son also had his iPAD and on EBE connected to Qstreaming and again no obvious difference.

[Brad Myer]

The A332s that are keeping the fixed IFE will get the updated system in both J and Y class like the A333s.

[Ash W]

Must admit thought the same. Now whilst not definitive Qantas source shows EBS and EBV with eX2 in Y.l and eX3 in J.

Would have thought they would share a common server but who knows with these things.

But main point I was making is the content seems to be the same regardless of J, Y or iPad.

[Gareth U]

But main point I was making is the content seems to be the same regardless of J, Y or iPad.

This has not been my experience at all.

[Ash W]

Certainly was mine on my last trip.

Y on EBV, J on EBE and checked my Sons iPAD on EBE just to see if there was any difference. Couldn't see any.

[Gareth U]

Out of interest/curiosity, I'll try to dig around for a definitive answer.

[Scott L.]

Flew Melbourne to Sydney on VH-EBC which had the mini iPad setup.
Flew Sydney to Melbourne on VH-EBS which had the new IFE.
The content was different.
The movies on the iPad were not as new, as I was looking forward to completing one I started to watch. It did not seem to have a moving map. The music inventoy was similar but it did lack more depth of inventory.
Its really strange that QF have opted for this rubbish as the ipads in my opinion are rubbish.

[Ash W]

It all comes off the same content server, so makes no sense. The layout is different though.

Only thing I can think is I believe the iPADs are pre-loaded, so maybe the Qantas provided ones don't have the full content, but can say with certainty when using my son's iPAD I could not see any content difference compared to what was coming through the (J) seat.

Maybe someone with their own device can verify when next they fly on a streaming A330 aircraft. Try the Qantas provided one and compare to your own device.

Also re eX2/eX3 had someone explain the Panasonic architecture to me the other day. Essentially the whole eX range is modular and you can mix and match as you please.

On EBS and EBV as the economy monitors, handsets remained the same they still need their old eX2 controllers, but the J seats have the eX3 controllers. They all connect to the same content server. So in Y the content and layout looks the same as J, but deep down it is still using eX2 hardware on the seats.

Likewise, and getting back to the iPAD issue streaming is a separate module called eXW, but again bolted on and connected to same content server.

So saying EBS/EBV have eX2 in Y and eX3 in J is actually correct. Likewise EBA and its brethren without fixed IFE in Y are really a combo of eX3/eXW.

[Wenglock M]

Having flown on EBJ both in Y and J, I can confirm that the amount of content available via the in-seat monitors in J and the iPads in Y is not the same although they may share the same content server.

On the 333s however, both J and Y would probably have the same amount of content given the entire aircraft is likely to be eX3 (unlike the distinction in the 332s).

[Christopher Campbell]

So did EBD finally enter Brisbane Maintenence for refurbishment last night?

[Gareth U]

Only thing I can think is I believe the iPADs are pre-loaded, so maybe the Qantas provided ones don't have the full content

I am not sure what you mean by, 'pre-loaded'. Just to clarify that the content on the Qantas-supplied iPads is streamed from the onboard servers, just like BYO devices. There is no media content stored or loaded on the device.

[Ricky T]

So did EBD finally enter Brisbane Maintenence for refurbishment last night?

Judging by its lack of activity from the 18th, its safe to assume EBD is in BNE for reconfiguration.

[C Patters]

Does anyone have an update on the condition of EBV? I was in Sydney last night & it was suppose to operate the Sydney Perth sector however was struck by lighting on the in-bound flight due to the storm activity over the airport & the flight was subsequently cancelled & could not operate.

[Oliver Gigacz]

Scheduled to fly QF81 to SIN in around 30 minutes.

[Zac M]

EBD is back online today as QF533....old config still

[Fred C]

EBD will be parked in BNE on the 18th Jan as an operational spare and the reconfig will start on the 27th Jan.

They may use it at any time up until the 27th.

[Gareth U]

So, just to further convolute the IFE issue. I can conform that the content available on the Qantas-supplied iPads is vastly different to that available if you use the Qantas Entertainment app on your own iPad (on the aircraft where that feature is available).

[Ash W]

Good to see I am not going mad! Which gets back to what I said above that I think the supplied ones are pre-loaded. Maybe not having to stream extends their battery life.

[Gareth U]

The Qantas-supplied iPads are streaming devices. There is no content stored on the iPad, they connect to the aircraft's wi-fi.

Further information is at http://www.qantas.com/travel/airlines/wireless-inflight-entertainment/au/en#using-the-qantas-supplied-ipads-2-class-b717-aircraft-and-selected-a330-200-aircraft

[Ash W]

So why is there a content difference? Two of us are now saying our own devices seem to have the full content available to fixed seat users, but only the supplied devices seem to have a less content, but everything is coming off the same system. Something doesn't make sense.

[Zac M]

QPH will be out on Wednesday operating a series of domestic sectors, cant see if it operates before that or what will be replacing it in the hanger.

[Fred C]

Looks like QPG is heading in next Friday.

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-QPH has returned to service, operating QF503 BNE-SYD.

[Dennis McLean]

EBD has returned to service today on QF651 BNE/PER departing at 11.25am

[Christopher Campbell]

Looks like EBN is next for refurbishment.

[Greg Hyde]

Qantas more than halfway through A330 reconfig program

Qantas says it is more than half way through the reconfiguration of its 28-strong Airbus A330 fleet with new business class seats and a refreshed economy cabin.

So far, Qantas has completed eight of its 10 A330-300s, which are mainly used on international routes to Asia and Honolulu, plus nine of the smaller capacity A330-200s flying with the new business class, which features 28 seats with direct aisle access and the ability for passengers to have their seats partially reclined during takeoff and landing.

“Our eighth reconfigured international A330 aircraft has taken to the skies, taking the total number of refurbished A330s across our domestic and international network to 17,” Qantas said in note to travel agents posted on its website on Friday.

“We’re more than halfway through our reconfiguration program and look forward to welcoming the next 11 aircraft.”

The program to reconfigure the entire fleet of 18 A330-200s and 10 A330-300s with the Thompson Aero Seating business class seats and refreshed Recaro-designed economy seats was expected to be completed by the end of 2016.

Virgin Australia completed the reconfiguration of its six Airbus A330-200s business class cabin with the B/E Aerospace Super Diamond reverse herringbone business class in November 2015. The Airbus widebodies are used on domestic routes between Perth and Australia’s east coast capitals and on services to Nadi on the Saturdays during select periods of the year.

The first of its five Boeing 777-300ERs, which fly from Australia to Los Angeles and Abu Dhabi, with the new business class seats was expected to take to the skies in April, Virgin chief executive John Borghetti said recently.

“All the major tests have been passed. There are just a couple of things to finalise but at this stage all is looking good,” Borghetti told Australian Aviation on February 11.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/02/qantas-more-than-halfway-through-a330-reconfig-program/

[TerryBennet]

QPH will be out on Wednesday operating a series of domestic sectors, cant see if it operates before that or what will be replacing it in the hanger.

I am on QF130 flying PVG - SYD on Sunday 27/3 in business class, its an A330-200 so its either EBG or EBL due to the 2/2/2 split cabin layout

Are any of these aircrafts scheduled to be refurbished before 27/3?

Do you think I'll have a good chance of getting a refurbished aircraft?

[MarkR]

So why is there a content difference? Two of us are now saying our own devices seem to have the full content available to fixed seat users, but only the supplied devices seem to have a less content, but everything is coming off the same system. Something doesn't make sense.

No difference between the supplied iPads and my own on a flight this morning, exactly the same.

[Ricky T]

I am on QF130 flying PVG - SYD on Sunday 27/3 in business class, its an A330-200 so its either EBG or EBL due to the 2/2/2 split cabin layout

Are any of these aircrafts scheduled to be refurbished before 27/3?

Do you think I'll have a good chance of getting a refurbished aircraft?

With another domestic A332 (EBN) in BNE maintenance, it looks like QF is focusing on getting these aircrafts refurbished first. This means its unlikely a refurbished aircraft will appear on the PVG route.

The refurbished A332s have appeared on flights to SIN and JKT in the past month which are much closer.

[Ash W]

The refurbished A332s have appeared on flights to SIN and JKT in the past month which are much closer.

Actually they (the 'domestic' A332's with iPAD IFE) have been appearing on these routes since October/November ish. Started about the time EBS went in for maintenance.

Prior to that CGK (Jakarta) was getting EBS and EBV, now its all over the shop.

[Brad Myer]

EBM/EBN once refurbished will also be used on international routes like EBS/EBV.

Its unlikely we will see the pure domestic iPad A332s on international routes once more PTV fitted A332s get the new biz class.

[Christopher Campbell]

Does anyone know when QPG is due to be returned to service. Been 30 days it entered Brisbane M.

[Dennis McLean]

I believe early to middle of April

[C Patters]

Does anyone know why QPE is currently doing domestic duties while EBJ & EBE are being used on the Singapore routes? Is there a yield issue? I thought the iPad A332s are meant to be for domestic use & only used for International if they are short of the PTV fitted A332s.......EBV & EBS are currently being used on Domestic runs. Something is not making sense here.

[Ricky T]

Does anyone know why QPE is currently doing domestic duties while EBJ & EBE are being used on the Singapore routes? Is there a yield issue? I thought the iPad A332s are meant to be for domestic use & only used for International if they are short of the PTV fitted A332s.......EBV & EBS are currently being used on Domestic runs. Something is not making sense here.

My guess is that the SIN routes do not need the capacity of the A333s given its not peak travel season although the difference in capacity between the two is only 26Y seats.

As for EBV and EBS being used on domestic runs, QF has been doing that since late 2015. Perhaps this is done to even up the cycles and hours across the fleet and to fit in maintenance.

[Brad Myer]

EBN should be back in service soon and will be a international/domestic PTV fitted A332.

Once the other 5 PTV fitted A332s have been upgraded you won't see any domestic (iPad) A332s on international routes.

[Christopher Campbell]

Does anyone one know when EBN will be finished in Brisbane?

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-EBN scheduled for Test Flight at 11am AEDST.

[Christopher Campbell]

EBN has just completed it test flight.

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-EBN has returned to service operating QF503 Brisbane - Sydney

Total:20 (67%)
Current:
A330-300
8 (80%)

A330-200
10 (61%)

[Jason A]

EBD flew BNE Syd this minding with Qf6*** number, has it been in the hangar for reconfig?

[Rowan McKeever]

From what I can work out, EBD hasn't been reconfigured yet? EBN just came out. Could be just another repositioning flight

[C Patters]

EBD has been reconfigured already....word is EBM is next but still awaiting confirmation.

[Christopher Campbell]

EBM will enter Brisbane for refurbishment in the morning of Tuesday (29th) after operating QF652.

[Zac M]

Incorrect. EBM will remain in service as is until April 3 atleast....thats as far as i can see and it ends that day in Melbourne so safe to say in service past then.

I cant find any of the non-reconfigured offline....so either a reconfigured is in for a check or QPJ is in soon....(I cant see international movemebts so no way for me to tell)

[Greg Hyde]

From what I can work out, EBD hasn't been reconfigured yet? EBN just came out. Could be just another repositioning flight

From QF Source

QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBN Returns from Brisbane Maintenance.
March 25, 2016

QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBN, which has been under maintenance at Brisbane since 20th February, returned to service this morning operating QF503 Brisbane – Sydney. The aircraft has been reconfigured to 28J/243Y.

[Greg Hyde]

From QF Source 11 done to date:

01 31/12/14 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBV Returns from Brisbane Maintenance.
02 13/02/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBA Returns from Brisbane Maintenance
03 17/04/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBJ Returns to QANTAS Service
04 25/05/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBS Returns from Brisbane Maintenance
05 05/07/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBB Returns from Brisbane Maintenance
06 12/09/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBK Returns to Service
07 23/09/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBF Enters QANTAS Service
08 18/11/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBE Enters Service
09 22/12/15 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBC Returns from Brisbane Maintenance
10 21/02/16 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBD Returns from Brisbane Maintenance
11 25/03/16 QANTAS A330-200 VH-EBN Returns from Brisbane Maintenance.

[Christopher Campbell]

Incorrect. EBM will remain in service as is until April 3 atleast....thats as far as i can see and it ends that day in Melbourne so safe to say in service past then.

I cant find any of the non-reconfigured offline....so either a reconfigured is in for a check or QPJ is in soon....(I cant see international movemebts so no way for me to tell)

Ok no worries, I was just copying what's someone was saying about EBM on australianfrrquentflyer forum for the a330 refurbishment. It wasn't my own information.

[Wenglock M]

Incorrect. EBM will remain in service as is until April 3 atleast....thats as far as i can see and it ends that day in Melbourne so safe to say in service past then.

I was pulling up the seat map for QF464 MEL-SYD on 25 April and it's the one for EBM (since EBN has already been reconfigured) so it's probably staying in that config until at least then and probably after as well.

[Christopher Campbell]

Does it look like QPJ or another A332 will be entering Bris M soon instead?

[NathanJ]

Apparently VH-XFA & VH-XFB are next up for refurb.

[Rowan McKeever]

XFA & XFB were Virgin aircraft? Guessing you mean EBA & EBB?

[NathanJ]

lol.

[Christopher Campbell]

XFA & XFB were Virgin aircraft? Guessing you mean EBA & EBB?

They are both already refurbished.

[Dennis McLean]

At Brisbane

QPG in on 13 Feb expected out mid April
EBV in on 28 March out???
N380HA in on 28 March out??? Does QF have a contract with Hawaiian??

Therefore no room at the "inn" for EBM at the moment, which is currently on the way to PER from MEL

[Brad Myer]

Yes QF picked up the heavy maintenance work for Hawaiian Airlines A330 fleet... They also picked up the ground handling contract as well.

[Christopher Campbell]

Do we know what check EBV is getting?

[Dennis McLean]

No, probably the usual 5-7 day minor check

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-EBV has finished its maintened check in Brisbane and is operating QF651 too Perth. Is EBM entering Brisbane M tonight for refurb then?

[Christopher Campbell]

Is QPG leaving Brisbane M to Singapore for repaint tomorrow?

[Zac M]

Negative to both

[Christopher Campbell]

Will we not see EBM enter for refurbishment until N380HA has finished its maintenance check and left Brisbane?

[NathanJ]

My best advice would be to crack open a kinder surprise, kick back, relax and see how it pans out. :)

[Robert.M]

Funny enough EBM had issues with its entertainment system, kept crashing when the safety video was played and did so while in the air but sorted out about an hour or two into the flight (QF569).

[Adrian B]

Those pesky windows updates... Nothing like Ctrl - Alt - Delete to get the system back up again

[Brad Myer]

QPG is now out of the hanger and should be back in service in the next few days.

[Christopher Campbell]

so it won't be going to Singapore for a repaint?

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-QPG is scheduled for a test flight at 10am AEST.

[Max C]

QPG will ferry BNE-SYD today as QF6001 then re-enter service as QF127 SYD-HKG

[Gordon Lee]

Next will be VH-QPJ. Anyone knows when she will enter Brisbane hanger? When QPJ is refurb, there will be no non-refurb A333 on service which is great. I am due out to Narita on 20 Apr so finger crossed.

[C Patters]

Does anyone know the hold up on why QPJ or EBM haven't gone into the hanger to commence their refurb? It looks like EBA is in Brisbane for minor maintenance however there should be a spare spot in the hanger for either of them to begin a refurb.

[Zac M]

School holidays maybe?????

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[Brad Myer]

VH-EBN is operated its first International sectors the last few day PER-AKL-PER and today (QF41) since being upgraded.

[Fred C]

QPJ will be parked in BNE from the 23rd April, unless needed, until the 3rd May when it will then enter the hangar for a check and reconfiguration.
VH-EBM is not due for heavy maintenance. Don''t know where you got that info Chris. Unfortunately for Gordon QPJ is currently sched to do the BNE NRT run on the 20th!

[Gordon Lee]

Thx Fred C. I know I am on the QPJ. Currently in the last 2 days QPJ was running QF29/30 rotation. Then tonight operating QF98 back to Brisbane for the next 2 BNE and Narita rotations.

But the QF62 that I will take on the 30/4 will be new configuration, so finger cross QPJ would not need to run again until after refit.

[Stephen Brown]

Anyone know what craft is doing QF5 on Anzac Day? It's saying an A332 on the website, but the past few days and today it has been an A333.

Thanks

[lloyd fox]

Does anyone know the hold up on why QPJ or EBM haven't gone into the hanger to commence their refurb? It looks like EBA is in Brisbane for minor maintenance however there should be a spare spot in the hanger for either of them to begin a refurb.

The funny thing there was a Jetstar A320 in the Qantas Hangar 3 the other day.

[Fred C]

Gordon QF 62 is QPA.
Stephen QF 5 is EBL.

[C Patters]

Thanks for the info above Fred. I only referred to EBM as next in the hanger as that has been the quoted rego next to undergo a refurb from the remaining A332 to be done. Do you know which is the next A332 to go in?

[Fred C]

Do you know which is the next A332 to go in?

EBB goes in for heavy shortly after EBA. Not sure which or when the next A332 reconfig is.

[Stephen Brown]

Gordon QF 62 is QPA.
Stephen QF 5 is EBL.

Thanks Fred.

[Ash W]

VH-EBN is operated its first International sectors the last few day PER-AKL-PER and today (QF41) since being upgraded.

Actually is's first O/S flight was QF41 on 28th March, I was on it.

[Gordon V]

I have a question regarding the booking of flights well in advance when refurbishments are underway on aircraft for which the number of seats available are being reduced, such as the number of business class seats on the Qantas A330.

If you booked a business class seat now on some flights, seat selection is based on the existing 2-2-2 configuration. When the configuration changes due to the completion of the refurbishment, seat assignment will also have to change based on the 1-2-1 formation and the reduction in the number of available seats.

What happens if the flight is close to if not fully booked ? How does the airline deal with this situation ? Are some passengers bumped off the flight ?

[lloyd fox]

Today at BNE whilst i was there HAL 332 left the hangar and is parked on the apron whilst QPG entered the hangar prior to 0900 hrs.There is still a JQ 320 in the hangar as well.

[Ash W]

I have a question regarding the booking of flights well in advance when refurbishments are underway on aircraft for which the number of seats available are being reduced, such as the number of business class seats on the Qantas A330.

If you booked a business class seat now on some flights, seat selection is based on the existing 2-2-2 configuration. When the configuration changes due to the completion of the refurbishment, seat assignment will also have to change based on the 1-2-1 formation and the reduction in the number of available seats.

What happens if the flight is close to if not fully booked ? How does the airline deal with this situation ? Are some passengers bumped off the flight ?

Think you will find they know, or have a reasonably good idea of what config will fly well in advance. Yes changes happen but they deal with it. Also domestically lots of seats, especially pointy end are not booked that far in advance anyway.

[Greg Hyde]

Qantas completes first A330 heavy check for Hawaiian Airlines under new contract

Qantas’s engineering facility at Brisbane Airport has completed the first of three heavy checks on Hawaiian Airlines’ Airbus A330-200 fleet.

The first Hawaiian aircraft to undergo its H check, N380HA, arrived in Brisbane from Honolulu on March 27 as HA9981.

It remained in Brisbane for just short of three weeks, before departing as HA444 for Honolulu on April 22.

Interestingly, flight HA444 originally took off late in the evening on April 21, but returned to Brisbane a couple of hours later. It then took off the following day a little after 1630 local time

“We have signed a one-year contract with Qantas to do H checks for three of our A330s this year,” Hawaiian Airlines said in an email to Australian Aviation.

“H checks are done every six years so this is a heavy check.”

Hawaiian, which serves Sydney and Brisbane as well as Auckland from its Honolulu hub, has 22 A330-200s in its fleet.

It is a busy time at Qantas’s Brisbane engineering facility, given it is completing the business class refits on the Flying Kangaroo’s own A330 fleet, as well as the reconfiguration of the Boeing 737-800s where an extra row of seats is being added alongside slimline lavatories and smaller galleys.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2016/04/qantas-completes-first-a330-heavy-check-for-hawaiian-airlines-under-new-contract/

[Gordon Lee]

Gordon QF 62 is QPA.
Stephen QF 5 is EBL.

Hi Fred C,

According to expertflyer, it looks like QPJ again on my QF62 at 30/4. Not QPA as per your comment. Double Unlucky both on a non refurb QPJ in this trip. Not happy.

[Fred C]

Thats a bugger Gordon. The odds should have been in your favour!

[Ryan N]

Will QF577 next Saturday (7th May) be a refurbished plane?

[Gordon Lee]

Thats a bugger Gordon. The odds should have been in your favour!
Fred C, don't know why I am on the QPG on the way back home. It is a much much better experience. QPJ is operating QF 51 today.

[Fred C]

Glad you got a reconfig aircraft. Hope you enjoy it.
Welcome to the world of airline operations. The aircraft swap and change every single day just to give customers a safe, working aircraft on time. Rego requests are ultimately a little futile when you see just how often it all changes.;)

[Gordon Lee]

Hi Fred C,

Thanks. QPG was a great aircraft to fly just got refurbished in April. I noticed that it did not have new toilets and overhead luggage compartment replaced. Otherwise new seat, Panasonic eX3 entertainment are very good and matching A380 products. When QPJ gets refurb from 3 May for a month or so, there will be no hassle to fly on a new product airplanes on the Asian and mid-haul destinations.

Next I hope to see 789 to come to Qantas fleet from 2017 and gradually replacing the aging 744.

It was a surprise to have great sushi meal onboard last night QF62. The quality was on the higher mark for an airline meal.

[Gordon Lee]

Glad you got a reconfig aircraft. Hope you enjoy it.
Welcome to the world of airline operations. The aircraft swap and change every single day just to give customers a safe, working aircraft on time. Rego requests are ultimately a little futile when you see just how often it all changes.;)

I also realize aircraft swap was to make less aircrafts on ground in order to increase operation revenue. However, this may not make airliners to have spare aircrafts on ground for sudden events. For example NRT bound QPA was returned back to Brisbane recently due to engine vibration and noise. With no comparable spare replacement, that flight has to be delayed for 24 hours, may be due to destination airport landing and parking slots. Subsequently, this affected other flight (QF97) due to the plane for normal operation swap was delayed returning back to Brisbane.

I had a very bad experience with Qantas back in April 2010. The LAX bound 3 class 744 aircraft QF15 was cancelled due to aircraft problem. Therefore QANTAS had to ferry another 4 class 744 from JFK that caused delay for our departure of QF16. Subsequently we had bad luck that one of the engines could not start up in taxiway that required the aircraft back to Gate. Due to American law, we had to stay in the aircraft for 4 hours and finally declared cancelled. All pessengers are required to re-enter the state for accommodation as there was no aircraft available. QANTAS subsequently ferried an old 747 from AKL to take us back home after 12 hours delay and another bad luck engine incidence caused another 3 hours delay before finally took off from LAX. It was a scare experience for all the passengers as we are not sure how well the plane can fly over the pacific for 15 hours. We finally got home after 16 hours delay.

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-EBB has returned to service

[Zac M]

It was never out of service....there is an A332 spare parked in BNE every weekend.

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[Christopher Campbell]

Oh ok

[Christopher Campbell]

Brisbane Maintenance: (from Australian Frequent flyer)
N381HA 21st April, expect 16th May
VH-EBC 2nd May, expect 23rd May
VH-QPJ 3rd May, expect 1st June

[Christopher Campbell]

VH EBC left Brisbane the maintenance today and has been replaced by VH-EBM supposedly for refurbishment

[Christopher Campbell]

N381HA is due to leave Brisbane M too Honulu at 8:10pmaa HAL9800. Will EBM take its place and be refurbished now or is there another HA A330 to be swapped in for maintenance straight away?

[Zac M]

What is your obsession with EBM been the next aircraft in the hanger?

[Christopher Campbell]

because it is by far the most likely A332 next for refurb. and i wouldn't call it obsession.

[Zac M]

Why is it most likely? What makes it different to any of the others?

[Christopher Campbell]

History shows that it most likely will be. And would make the most sense to eliminate the number of different configurations.

[Fred C]

EBM is due for a reconfig around the 5th June.

QPG due for a repaint around the 3rd June.

[Christopher Campbell]

When EBB and QPJ leave Brisbane M since all the A333 will be completed do you think its likely A332s including EBM will be refurbished at the same time?

[Rowan McKeever]

I think it makes sense that, unless other A330s require H checks of some kind in the meantime, they would run two concurrent -200s through reconfiguration. There are seven left to do and they're meant to all be done this year, so I doubt they'll be hanging around.

[Christopher Campbell]

although actually on second thoughts I think whilst QPG, QPI, QPH, QPJ get repainted they may only have one being refurbished since they would have 3 a330s out of service at one time if they did. Can they operate with only 25 A330s? they have cut capacity in the second half of this year maybe they might. Hopefully after they get repainted definitely two at a time.

[Rowan McKeever]

They've done it before from memory. There's also nothing at this stage to suggest all four -300s will be repainted one after the other.

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[Christopher Campbell]

Hey that's kinda true, although first 5 refurbished A333s were.

[Christopher Campbell]

Whats happening with VH-EBO? Refurb or just maintenance check?

[Zac M]

Going on its record over the past few days probably unserviceable. I did see it was due to ops 651 tomorrow.

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[Ricky T]

VH-EBO was back in service yesterday afternoon and operated QF545 to SYD from BNE.

So it was just a maintenance check.

[Max C]

QPJ back service today BNE-SIN as QF51
QPG off to SIN for repaint as QF53

[Christopher Campbell]

EBM has started refurbishment confirmed by Qantas' Go behind the scenes with Rachel at our Brisbane Base Maintenance Hangar

https://www.facebook.com/Qantas/videos/10153655974637686/

VH-EBB is back in service and VH-EBD should be in for maintenance check soon.

[C Patters]

That was a fantastic behind the scenes video from Qantas with Rachel. They should do more of that.
Lets hope that when EBD goes in for maintenance that they replace the Grey Nose Cone (Jetstar colour) with the proper white cone colour as per the standard Qantas colours.......its looks shocking!!


http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/1/5/8/2827851.jpg

[Zac M]

EBM is due out of the hanger tomorrow at this point, EBR has been in BNE for quite some time now so I would assume that she is undergoing her refurb now. No replacement for EBM at this point, would assume due to school holidays!

[Brad Myer]

EBM is back in service this morning 1/07/16

[Max C]

Showing 28J/243Y

[Fred C]

EBR in for reconfig. EBC in for maintenance as of today until mid July. Then EBO in for reconfig from mid July. EBQ will follow when EBR is finished.

[Brad Myer]

EBM operated its first international flight QF35 today since being upgraded

[Garry Emanuel]

We must be getting very close to completion !

[Greg McDonald]

I hope so!! This has to be the most boring thread in existence!!:)

[Dennis McLean]

It might boring to you but NOT to a lot of others. Following the ones just listed, we will be only left with EBP, EBG and EBL, perhaps all done by the end of 2016???

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-EBC has returned to service this morning.
VH-EBQ as also predicted entered Brisbane M for refurbishment last night.

[Christopher Campbell]

VH-EBO went into refurbishment last night.
VH-EBR (13th refurbished A332) is back in service this morning finishing it's refurbishment.
This makes it 3 non refurbished A330s in operation.

[Christopher Campbell]

Does anyone know Qantas is set to commence maintience work on the next Hawaiian Airlines A330 in Brisbane?

[Rowan McKeever]

I don't specifically know the answer to your question but RAAF KC-30 (A330MRTT) A39-005 positioned to BNE from Amberley on Friday afternoon and hasn't flown since, which suggests it's occupying a bay in the A330 hangar.

[MarkR]

The MRTTs usually go to the defence hanger AFAIK.

[Neil L]

Saw it land and park at the Grumman Northrop ?? maintenance area and not at the Qantas Base late Friday afternoon.

[Rowan McKeever]

Ahhh fair enough

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[C Patters]

Does anyone know when EBQ & EBO are due out of the hanger from their refurb?
Also why is QPF doing domestic duties when it should be operating mainly on International legs instead of the 200's which is currently happening?

[Christopher Campbell]

EBQ returned to service this morning from refurbishment and EBP went into refurbishment last night. This now leaves only 2 non refurbished a330s (EBL, EBG flying)

[Christopher Campbell]

I could have missed something but from my quick research it seems that EBL is heading into refurb this afternoon on QF560 and EBO returning from refurb late this evening. There are no A330s flying to Brisbane afternoon apart from EBL which has just landed. I did a seat check using seat alerts expert flyer and it shows a 1-2-1 configuration for tonights QF767 Brisbane - Perth.

[Zac M]

EBC arrives as QF598 and operates EBL returns to SYD as QF531

EDIT: 531 may be cancelled so that EBL can ops 651 to PER, it appears EBE is unserviceable.

[MarkR]

Flew EBL yesterday, sure was a reminder of how ancient the IFE is by today's standards.

[Christopher Campbell]

EBC arrives as QF598 and operates EBL returns to SYD as QF531

EDIT: 531 may be cancelled so that EBL can ops 651 to PER, it appears EBE is unserviceable.

Yeah your right about EBL. Although EBL is operating 531. Is it returning to Bris later this evening? EBC may replace EBE this evening?

[Zac M]

no, EBO is not exiting maintenance today. At this stage if 651 doesn't go soon I would anticipate they may use a 737 and disperse the pax who wont fit on remaining services

[Christopher Campbell]

Ok, hopefully tomorrow then.

[Fred C]

EBO won't be out of maintenance until next weekend.