Regarding the use of otherwise idle foreign aircraft, just remember that crews need to be found to operate them. For instance, the Etihad crews have to get their required rest breaks, and I am sure they would not use a rested crew to do a couple of domestic runs, only to have to cancel/delay the scheduled flight to Abu Dhabi due to a shortage of crew.

Re Michael: Can they ferry an extra set of crews delicated or in rotation to do the domestic runs? I am sure Ethiad accepts the offer to use their planes for domestic runs because what they recieve will definitely be more than the cost they are sending extra staff to, should that's needed.

I believe it could be the same as Singapore Airlines.

It seems to me that Virgin Australia is cashing in heaps even if they are wet-leasing aircrafts to do domestic runs for them to do so. However, I just wondering is it possible for Virgin Australia to use their B77Ws to do domestic runs as well? They are planning to let Air NZ replacing themselves to do NZ runs, and how about to use extra DL metals to the US and more Etihad planes to replace VA ones to ABU?

Finally, Virgin set a target to make their Corporate Market Share from 10% to 20%. I wonder if they will achieve say 30 or even 40% this year due to Qantas Shutdown.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6215/...758e2074_b.jpg
My camera has this as taxiing out at 1700 departing at 1702, I dare say this flight (QF717 VH-VZL) was the last flight to depart anywhere.

The tribunal ruled in favour of Termination - as requested by Qantas and the fed and state governments ..... and against the wishes of the unions.

Joyce did what had to be done, although the board probably hoped that the Government would declare the industrial action illegal rather than get FWA involved. I rely on QANTAS to a degree for my job, i am also in a union. I know the training involved to become a LAME, i am a trainer. The unions (TWU and ALEA mainly)went too far in asking for legally binding job security - no one, excluding royal families (debatable at times) and the pope has job security, why should these unions? If they got that, every union would demand the same. QANTAS has been damaged by both parties actions, many will never fly it again and i guess time will tell how long QANTAS keeps flying.

The location of all 108 aircraft grounded by QF fleet by rego is on here:
http://theqantassource.com/
Also statemnet by AJ for his reasons for the grounding

That is not a reliable source. It is only going by where aircraft were last trcked to, ie: VH-TJZ is listed as been in Canberra arriving on the 28th...WRONG

Too far?...

If you were invited to a knife fight, and had the option of taking a gun?...

Hi...

Two aircraft are missing from the list.

VH-QPH - I suspect is in Singapore.
VH-OGE - It was flying around the day Qantas was grounded.

Anyone know where OGE is please?

Regards,

Steve S

QF32 will depart Singapore at 1100 today. VH-OQG.