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Stefan Perkas 1st May 2012 11:44 PM

Evening all,

Airliners.net http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo.../5443885/#last reporting that...

Quote:

Another QF B744 retirement with VH-OJP departing on 10/06 as QF107 SYD-LAX and ferry off to VCV on the 11/06 as QF6021...

Jim M 2nd May 2012 04:35 AM

Stefan,
Wouldn't mind betting that should be 10/05 departure,not 10/06. OJP hasn't operated a service since about 25/04 so i can't see it being here for another 6 weeks or so till the 10/06.

Cheers
Jim

Ian Nicholls 2nd May 2012 05:40 AM

Both QF12 and QF108 operate on 10/05 but there's no QF12 on 10/06 and QF108 is an A380 so 10 June is definitely the date.

Jim M 2nd May 2012 06:46 AM

Thanks Ian,if this is the case then it is a bit unusual compared to other 744 withdrawals. Most have departed to the desert within 2 or 3 weeks of their withdrawal. Although OJP seems not to have operated since around 25/04,I guess there has been nothing "official" to say that it has been withdrawn as yet.
Maybe she's destined to operate a few more QF services yet,who knows....

Cheers
Jim

Todd Hendry 2nd May 2012 11:36 AM

All I know is it will OJP will depart after the 4th of June.
Todd

Jim M 2nd May 2012 12:39 PM

Cheers Todd!

callum bain 7th May 2012 06:59 AM

i believe that most of the aircraft will be sold to developing governments like some of there 737-400

Bob C 7th May 2012 11:40 AM

Any clues as to which "developing governments" are in the market for the former QANTAS airframes ?

Jamie D 20th May 2012 11:56 PM

OJP is in currently enroute to jnb as QF 63, appears to have a few more scheduled ops in her before retirement

Lee G 3rd June 2012 07:40 AM

I believe it's the final flight of VH-OJF today - ops as QF107 then instead of returning, will end up at KVDV.

Jim M 3rd June 2012 04:37 PM

Thanks for the info on OJF Lee. I know it is one of the aircraft that was for sale and I note it hasn't operated a service for a few weeks,but i feel that this one has been kept a little quiet. I don't recall seeing anything saying that it was going so soon.
Thought OJP was next.

Cheers
Jim

Luke Chittock 3rd June 2012 06:21 PM

Hi Jim - OJF was scheduled to depart 03JUN back in FEB. OJP departs 10JUN, same deal (ops QF107 as noted in previous posts).
OJG/OJH/OJQ were next to go between JUL and OCT, though I understand OJQ may have been pushed back

Jim M 3rd June 2012 08:19 PM

Gday Luke,thanks for that,I wasn't aware of the June dates for OJF or OJP for that matter. I did originally hear that OJG,OJH and OJJ were going late 2012 early 2013 respectively,but things have probably changed since then. Although,you are still saying OJG and OJH this year,I had heard nothing about OJQ until you mentioned it here.

Thanks once again,
Jim

Ian Nicholls 4th June 2012 08:24 PM

Just for the record VH-OJF operated the QF107/QF108 LAX-JFK tag so it's final QF passenger flight was QF108 JFK-LAX.

Jim M 24th July 2012 03:42 PM

Does anyone have any updates here?

Only reason I'm asking is that OJG seems to have been a bit quiet for a week or so and it was mentioned earlier in this thread as one that was supposed to be going between July and October. I for one, hope its not the case and there is some other reason.

Keep all the rest.... We've lost enough already!!

Jim

Sarah C 24th July 2012 05:46 PM

There is a 747 at the Jetbase near the Pond with its titles removed and tail painted out. It should be OJG.

Jim M 24th July 2012 07:48 PM

Thanks Sarah,that would be it. All the others seem to be accounted for.

Looks like no revenue service for her,straight to the desert :(

Jim

Shayne G 24th July 2012 08:12 PM

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Here is VH-OJG this evening. Sorry for quality, phone camera and low light aren't a good mix.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim M (Post 76350)
Keep all the rest.... We've lost enough already!!

Jim

I have similar sentiments as you.

Dave Dale 24th July 2012 09:05 PM

OJA still soldiers on!

Jim M 24th July 2012 09:26 PM

Dave,I hope a few more soldier on with her!!

Speaking of the glorious lady, saw her arrive on the QF22 from NRT yesterday morning, looking as good as ever!

Cheers
Jim

Stuart Trevena 24th July 2012 11:41 PM

Hi All,

Can anyone please advise how Qantas decides which a/c stays and which ones retire.
I ask this as they seem be retiring a/c regos all over the place - not in order.

I would have thought that OJA being the oldest would go first, but that isn't the case.

Stuart

Michael Mak 25th July 2012 12:05 AM

Probably which ones approaching a heavy check (D-check?) first?

Jim M 25th July 2012 06:05 AM

Stuart

Just for your info,if you read right through this thread and some others about OJR,I think some of what you are asking has been addressed. Michael is right about aircraft approaching D checks,but I believe it is also to do with the different leasing arrangements and the associated costs with that,as well as the aircraft's number of cycles.


Cheers
Jim

Adam W 25th July 2012 06:05 AM

As Michael said heavy maintenance plays a part. Other factors are the number of cycles and the cost of the lease if it is a leased aircraft.

Sarah C 25th July 2012 06:45 AM

OJG has been moved overnight - it is now along the fence at the JetBase enterance so it is very prominent if you are driving along QF Drive.

Jim M 25th July 2012 02:05 PM

Does anyone know when she is departing our shores?

Cheers
Jim

Luke Chittock 2nd August 2012 04:22 PM

QF6020/21AUG Sydney direct Marana

Jim M 2nd August 2012 05:12 PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong,by all means,but I think this will be the first QF 744 to Marana since OJR left our shores.

Thanks for the info Luke

Jim

Fred C 12th August 2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim M (Post 76379)
Does anyone know when she is departing our shores?

Cheers
Jim

Jim it looks like going on the 21st August at around 1155.

It has flown over 100,000 hours for Qantas including 12,500 landings.:D

Bob C 12th August 2012 12:30 PM

Hi Fred

Would that be the first Qantas aircraft to have flown 100,000 hours ? I know that many have made it to the "nervous 90s" but I think this may be the first to hit the ton.

I've tried to keep a list of high time B747s which I collate from various sources. I know that it is far from complete but I think the former B747-206B, N730SA c/n 22380 l/n 0539 of Southern Air Transport is the world's high time B747 with 127,867 hours.

And my list has more than 20 B747s with more than 100,000 hours.

I'd be intersted if anyone can help me add to the list.

Cheers

Bob

Jim M 12th August 2012 07:34 PM

Thanks Fred for the update and your always informative info.
Another sad day it will be for all us 744 lovers :(

Cheers
Jim

Tom PER 12th August 2012 10:43 PM

Are you sure -OJG has over 100k hours?

Last year it had 86084hrs/11055cycles.

At that time which was December 2012 -OJN was the highest with 94727hrs closely followed behind by -OJB with 94509hrs.

Bob C, LH's D-ABVA had 112,358 (117,982 block hours) 15274cycles at time of retirement. I believe that's the most on a B744 frame.

Bob C 13th August 2012 12:40 PM

Hi Tom

Just had a quick look at my records and I have 5 B747s with more hours than D-ABVA.

I also went a googling and found that N746SA, a B747-206B c/n 21111 l/n 0276 of Southern Air Transport had 134,694 hours and 23,991 cycles when it was retired in December 2009. It was due for a major check and the cost would have been more than the airframe was worth so it was retired.

It hadn't featured in my list so who knows what is out there as there is nothing definitive.

My records are compiled from Wikipedia, media reports, airline PR releases, Boeing PR releases, Aircraft for Sale sites, answers to my written questions etc.

Cheers

Bob

Fred C 13th August 2012 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Barber (Post 76918)
Are you sure -OJG has over 100k hours?

Yes.:)

Bob I do believe it is the first, but I cannot be 100% sure on this.

Bob C 13th August 2012 07:21 PM

Hi Fred

Thanks for the info.

But if Tom's figures are correct, then there is no way that -OJG could have flown 14,000 hours in 12 months.

The following site lists various aircraft for sale and I counted 6 QF B747-400s, including -OJN an -OJB which Tom mentioned in his reply. Note that several of the QF aircraft have already been sold or scrapped.

http://www.speednews.com/EquipmentRe...t&Aircraft=747

Cheers

Bob

NathanJ 19th August 2012 07:48 PM

VH-OJG awaiting it's fate.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8442/7...9eeec7c8_b.jpg

Jim M 20th August 2012 10:21 PM

Just a reminder that OJG departs tomorrow at around 1155 for anyone that may be out there.

Does anyone know the reason for it going to Marana,rather than VCV,where most of the others have gone? Just interested to know.

Cheers
Jim

Fred C 20th August 2012 11:26 PM

It is where the owners of the aircraft have requested it goes for whatever reason that may be.

Benny Zheng 20th August 2012 11:42 PM

According to Wikipedia, Pinal Airpark's main purpose is to act as a "boneyard" for civilian commercial aircraft.

Jim M 21st August 2012 12:10 AM

Thanks Fred,it is certainly interesting. Think OJR was the last one to go there :confused:

Cheers
Jim


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