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Adrian B 9th September 2015 10:36 AM

BA 777 on fire at McCarran Las Vegas
 
Article with video below:

Article from News.com.au

A BRITISH Airways aircraft has caught fire on the runway of Las Vegas airport.
All passengers and crew evacuated safely as the Boeing 777-200 erupted in a cloud of smoke.
The fire, at McCarran International Airport, started as British Airways Flight 2276 moved out on the tarmac in preparation for a flight for london.
There were 159 passengers and 13 crew on board the flight bound for Gatwick International Airport, London.

MarkR 9th September 2015 10:59 AM

Looks like an undercarriage fire to me. Glad everyone got out.

Justin L 9th September 2015 10:59 AM

3 Attachment(s)
Yes, there was a loud bang and quite a commotion at our office which is adjacent to the runway. Attached are some photos taken from our office when it occurred. The plane is still on the runway, now two hours since the incident. All three other runways are operational it appears.

Alex T 9th September 2015 11:08 AM

Rego is G-VIIO, delivered to BA in Jan 1999.

Grahame Hutchison 9th September 2015 11:37 AM

The BA B777-200 bound for Gatwick from Las Vegas had an engine fire while preparing for takeoff, according to the Seattle Times.

This could have been a really nasty accident with the amount of fuel on-board - everyone was very lucky to escape safely (only two minor injuries).

Seattle Times Coverage with some amazing images.

MarkR 9th September 2015 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 96219)
Looks like an undercarriage fire to me. Glad everyone got out.

Pretty significant un-contained engine failure now the smoke has cleared - that engine looks bad.

http://www.airliners.net/uf/194186/1441758970P97XRv.png


ATC clip here

https://clyp.it/jrvdzhrw

Apparently yet another incident where idiot pax evacuated with their cabin baggage.

MarkR 9th September 2015 12:28 PM

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...-airport#img-2

Quite a lot of damage.

Adrian B 9th September 2015 01:29 PM

Me hopes the insurance premium is paid up for that bird - or should I say ex.

Also re the picture from mar above - not a good spot to being doing the Macarena...

Robert.M 9th September 2015 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 96223)
Apparently yet another incident where idiot pax evacuated with their cabin baggage.

Asking the question to people, the answers I get just leave me shaking my head in disgust. I think people have forgotten just how quick fire can take hold in the cabin. :(

Shows the damage to the airframe quite well. :/
https://twitter.com/starflyergold/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

MarkR 9th September 2015 07:14 PM

Flight.org have a video of a sim session with the scenario of an engine fire on takeoff, makes for interesting viewing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIwZiEnULQ

Grahame Hutchison 9th September 2015 09:24 PM

In one video I counted seven passengers with carry on bags, some wheeling them behind them across the runway. Evacuating with bags could cause injury to themself or other passengers on the escape slide, or slow things down to the point where some passengers to not make it out before the fire takes hold. Difficult for the cabin crew, if they take the bags from the passenger, it will again slow things down, and where do they put them without blocking the exits.

Unbelievable !

Like the Flight.org video Mark, thanks.

Stephen Brown 9th September 2015 09:42 PM

The Pax should be fined

Rowan McKeever 9th September 2015 10:25 PM

Did anyone else have no sound in the video?

Adrian B 9th September 2015 11:23 PM

OK so now the dumb question. For the sensible people whom did leave without their carry on behind, how do they get their possessions back in a scenario like this?

Martin Buzzell 10th September 2015 07:28 AM

Interesting spin on the fire spread. I was quite surprised at where the actual fire seemed to be coming from.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1227520010227

MarkR 10th September 2015 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Buzzell (Post 96247)
Interesting spin on the fire spread. I was quite surprised at where the actual fire seemed to be coming from.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel...-1227520010227

I wonder what it takes to be labelled an expert by the press?? That article is just rubbish, fuel on the Tarmac from a refuelling spill LOL. Any unusual heat would have been detected by sensors a long time before takeoff.

The photo linked in Roberts post (https://mobile.twitter.com/starflyer...rc=twsrc%5Etfw) seems to indicate no ground damage, I suspect the fire was fed by fuel from a damaged line after the engine tore itself apart.

Nigel C 10th September 2015 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Brown (Post 96240)
The Pax should be fined

They should be banned from flying. They're a danger to themselves as well as everyone around them.

Stephen Brown 10th September 2015 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nigel C (Post 96249)
They should be banned from flying. They're a danger to themselves as well as everyone around them.

Part of the 'its all about me' times we live in....No doubt someone will sue the airline for distress or lost something or other.....

Radi K 10th September 2015 10:06 AM

I'm in no way excusing what they did but under a stressful situation such as this people don't think. It's a very non-normal situation and people have a paradigm, or set way of doing things, when they leave an aircraft (taking things with you). I don't think it's isolated to a fire evacuation of a plane. It's likely a pattern of other evacuations also.

There is talk about locking overhead lockers after this incident. It highlights the importance of limiting the size of carry-on luggage. Are cabin crew trained to forcefully tell the passengers to ditch their bags at the door prior to exit?

MarkR 10th September 2015 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radi K (Post 96253)
I'm in no way excusing what they did but under a stressful situation such as this people don't think. It's a very non-normal situation and people have a paradigm, or set way of doing things, when they leave an aircraft (taking things with you). I don't think it's isolated to a fire evacuation of a plane. It's likely a pattern of other evacuations also.

There is talk about locking overhead lockers after this incident. It highlights the importance of limiting the size of carry-on luggage. Are cabin crew trained to forcefully tell the passengers to ditch their bags at the door prior to exit?


This is the latest in a long list of evacuations where customers have taken bags etc. I think locking lockers is not a bad a idea, of course that won't help those who stow bags under the seats in front (albeit smaller in size). At least the problem is now seen as something that affects both developed and developing countries, as previously the majority of incidents have been in Asia.

Martin Buzzell 10th September 2015 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 96248)
seems to indicate no ground damage, I suspect the fire was fed by fuel from a damaged line after the engine tore itself apart.

Yes, I did have a laugh at the article and the "Aviation Expert." The engine certainly spat the dummy big time. Hopefully we get to see some more photos of what actually let go and what damage it did.

Buzz

Rowan McKeever 10th September 2015 05:02 PM

Slightly more detailed photos here:

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=48c10434&opt=0

R3 slide looks to have blown under the fuselage at some point?

Philip Argy 11th September 2015 04:17 AM

NTSB Update
 
The NTSB has issued this update

Quote:

Sept. 10, 2015
As part of its ongoing investigation into Tuesday’s engine fire that occurred during takeoff of British Airways flight 2276, a Boeing 777, at McCarran International Airport (LAS), the NTSB today released the following investigative update.
NTSB investigators arrived on scene Wednesday morning local time to begin the on-scene investigation. The NTSB investigative team includes experts in powerplants, airplane systems, and fire. The following groups will be organized: powerplants, airworthiness (airplane structure, systems, and fire), flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder.
Parties to the NTSB investigation are the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), The Boeing Company, and GE Aviation. In accordance with the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) Annex 13, the UK Air Accidents Investigations Branch (AAIB), as the State of the Operator, has appointed an accredited representative to assist the investigation. The UK accredited representative has initially appointed British Airways and the UK Civil Aviation Authority as technical advisors.
The following are the initial factual findings:
• British Airways flight 2276, a Boeing 777-200ER, equipped with two GE90-85B engines, registration G-VIIO, was operating under the provisions of 14 Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 129 and was enroute to London - Gatwick Airport (LGW), Horley, England.
• There were 157 passengers, including 1 lap child, and 13 crew members on board. There were several minor injuries as a result of the evacuation (mostly abrasions).
• The flight data recorder, cockpit voice recorder and quick access recorder have arrived at the NTSB Vehicle Recorder Laboratory and are currently being downloaded.
• On Tuesday evening, the airplane was photographed and the runway debris documented by FAA and airport officials before airplane was towed to secluded area of the airport (in order to reopen the runway).
• Initial examination of the left engine revealed multiple breaches of the engine case in the area around the high pressure compressor.
• Examination of the material recovered from runway found several pieces of the high pressure compressor spool (approximately 7-8 inches in length).
• Initial examination of the airplane by NTSB revealed that the left engine and pylon, left fuselage structure and inboard left wing airplane were substantially damaged by the fire. This damage will be documented over the next several days.
The powerplants and airworthiness groups will continue documenting the airplane and engine over the next several days. It is anticipate that once the tooling is in place, the left engine will be removed and shipped to a facility to conduct a full teardown.

Grahame Hutchison 12th September 2015 09:16 PM

The Captain of the BA B777 had only one other flight planned before his retirement, but he thinks he'll skip it and stop flying now.

Justin L 8th October 2015 04:19 AM

In case anyone's interested, this Seattle Times article outlines the confirmation of the origin of the recent Las Vegas BA B777 engine failure.

FYI, the said BA B777 is still at LAS.

Justin L 17th December 2015 02:08 PM

Bit of an update...

The BA 777 whose engine caught fire as LAS in September will be repaired and will fly again.

Story here.

Justin L 17th February 2016 08:43 AM

For anyone who is still following this and is interested:

Work nearly done on British Airways jet that caught fire in aborted Las Vegas takeoff

MarkR 27th February 2016 05:06 AM

Now off to get a paint job:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...700Z/KLAS/KVCV

Justin L 28th February 2016 03:23 AM

Thanks Mark. Actually saw a BA 777 taxiing just before 1.30pm Friday as I was heading to a meeting. That was the one!

Photo of the take off in this article.

Jet that caught fire on McCarran runway has left Las Vegas


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