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Scott Lindsell 26th March 2008 03:50 AM

Boeing's first E-10A - PHOTO incl.
 
Hi guys,
Managed to shoot the E-10A flying yesterday :) and thought you guys may like a sneak peak. After the contract was lost recently to the -330 this frame has no direct future and may end up stored in the desert. The aircraft has no windows or cargo door so is currently very limited to its uses.

http://flickr.com/photos/bfiguy/2360831752/

http://flickr.com/photos/bfiguy/2360815942/

Scott.

Ash W 26th March 2008 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Lindsell (Post 599)
Hi guys,
Managed to shoot the E-10A flying yesterday :) and thought you guys may like a sneak peak. After the contract was lost recently to the -330 this frame has no direct future and may end up stored in the desert. The aircraft has no windows or cargo door so is currently very limited to its uses.

http://flickr.com/photos/bfiguy/2360831752/

http://flickr.com/photos/bfiguy/2360815942/

Scott.

Aren't the Japanesse buying these? Also no doubt if pushed good olde Israel would no doubt toe the buy Americian line.

Grant Smith 26th March 2008 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash W (Post 602)
Aren't the Japanesse buying these? Also no doubt if pushed good olde Israel would no doubt toe the buy Americian line.

I'm sure for the right price, the Israeli's could be swayed into buying Airbus too...

;)

Ash W 26th March 2008 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grant Smith (Post 603)
I'm sure for the right price, the Israeli's could be swayed into buying Airbus too...

;)

Now that I would like to see. Same too with the Japanesse for that matter. Much of what both buy (not just talking a/c here) seems to be very American indeed, more so than any other countries I have ever visited.

Bob C 26th March 2008 01:54 PM

Japan already has at least two and Italy one.

Morris Biondi 26th March 2008 03:11 PM

Scott,

Great photos mate, hope you're well buddy.

Morris

Torin Wilson 26th March 2008 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyC (Post 640)
Japan already has at least two and Italy one.


They would be 767-200ERs, not 767-400ERs as shown in Scotts photos.

D Chan 26th March 2008 05:30 PM

wasn't Boeing's proposal for the USAFtanker project based on a 762ER platform rather than the 767-400?

Torin Wilson 26th March 2008 07:06 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-10_MC2A

E-10 isn't the tanker.

KC-767 (762ER) lost to KC-45 (A332) for the USAF aerial refueling competition thingy

Ash W 26th March 2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torin Wilson (Post 669)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-10_MC2A

E-10 isn't the tanker.

KC-767 (762ER) lost to KC-45 (A332) for the USAF aerial refueling competition thingy

So the OP was half right then?

Scott Lindsell 27th March 2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ash W (Post 671)
So the OP was half right then?


Yes sorry if there was any confusion there chaps :o. Torins link will tell you all about the E-10 and he was also right in correcting that Japan and Italy also have taken delivery of some of their 762 tankers. Japan currently has a yellow primer 762 tanker frame up at PAE which should fly in the next week or so.
I can post a photo of one of Italy's tankers if required/wanted ???
Scott.

Hey Mori, soggy but good. Snow today and we're in spring :eek: !!!!!

Shameel Kumar 27th March 2008 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torin Wilson (Post 669)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-10_MC2A

E-10 isn't the tanker.

KC-767 (762ER) lost to KC-45 (A332) for the USAF aerial refueling competition thingy

Firstly, wasn't the latest KC-767 tanker based on the 767-200LRF platform, not the -200ER? :confused:
The tankers which Italy and Japan have placed orders for are straight-up conversions of 767-200ER aircraft.

The E-10 which Scott took a couple of photos of is based off the 767-400ER platform and it seems as though it is/was a replacement for the Boeing 707-based E-3 Sentry AWACS, the E-8 Joint STARS aircraft, and EC-135 ELINT aircraft.

So from that the question I have for Scott is... why do you suggest that the E-10 will soon be collecting dust out in the desert? Did the development ..and ultimately the production of the E-10 depend on the new KC-767 Advanced Tanker winning the USAF aerial refueling bid? :confused: .... couldn't it still be built regardless of the KC-767's fate?

Torin Wilson 27th March 2008 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shameel Kumar (Post 707)
Firstly, wasn't the latest KC-767 tanker based on the 767-200LRF platform, not the -200ER? :confused:
The tankers which Italy and Japan have placed orders for are straight-up conversions of 767-200ER aircraft.

The E-10 which Scott took a couple of photos of is based off the 767-400ER platform and it seems as though it is/was a replacement for the Boeing 707-based E-3 Sentry AWACS, the E-8 Joint STARS aircraft, and EC-135 ELINT aircraft.

So from that the question I have for Scott is... why do you suggest that the E-10 will soon be collecting dust out in the desert? Did the development ..and ultimately the production of the E-10 depend on the new KC-767 Advanced Tanker winning the USAF aerial refueling bid? :confused: .... couldn't it still be built regardless of the KC-767's fate?

You're right about the 200ER/LRF thing. But if you read the link I posted it explains exactly what you are asking.

The E10A funding was dropped at the end of FY07.

Andrew McLaughlin 27th March 2008 08:27 PM

E-10 is designed to replace the E-8C Joint STARS 707s, although funding has been slowed to a trickle in recent years.

A big canoe fairing will be added under the forward fuselage to carry a big SAR radar antenna.

Scott Lindsell 28th March 2008 08:47 AM

Next Japanese tanker first flight was today.
S.


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