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Greg McDonald 13th August 2008 08:44 AM

Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing
 
From News.com.au:

A VIRGIN Blue jet with 55 passengers on board was forced to make a high-speed landing at Melbourne airport in what air safety investigators are treating as a serious incident.

The scare follows a host of safety issues with Australian planes that began three weeks ago when an explosion on a Qantas 747 blew a hole in the fuselage.

The 78-seat Virgin Blue Embraer jet from Sydney was close to landing at 8.50pm on Sunday when the pilot experienced problems extending the flaps and the slats.

Emergency services were immediately put on standby as the Brazilian-built plane approached, The Australian reports.

The flaps, at the rear of the wing, and the slats, on the front, deploy to increase the wing's surface area and slow the plane when landing.

A Virgin Blue spokesman said Sunday's problems involved a sensor controlling the slats.

He said the pilot followed set guidelines with the flaps only partially extended and the slats not extended at all.

"As a matter of practice, the flight crew notified air traffic control that alternate procedures were being adopted for landing," he said.

"Then air traffic control, in turn, as a safety precaution put emergency services at the airport on standby."

Josh F 13th August 2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

A VIRGIN Blue jet with 55 passengers on board was forced to make a high-speed landing at Melbourne airport in what air safety investigators are treating as a serious incident.

The scare follows a host of safety issues with Australian planes that began three weeks ago when an explosion on a Qantas 747 blew a hole in the fuselage.

The 78-seat Virgin Blue Embraer jet from Sydney was close to landing at 8.50pm on Sunday when the pilot experienced problems extending the plane's flaps and slats. Emergency services were immediately put on standby as the Brazilian-built jetliner approached the airport.

The flaps, at the rear of the wing, and the slats, on the front, deploy to increase the wing's surface area and slow the plane when landing.

A Virgin Blue spokesman said Sunday's problems involved a sensor controlling the slats.

He said the pilot followed set guidelines, with the flaps only partially extended and the slats not extended.

"As a matter of practice, the flight crew notified air traffic control that alternate procedures were being adopted for landing," the spokesman said.

"Then air traffic control, in turn, as a safety precaution put emergency services at the airport on standby. The aircraft landed without incident, and following a subsequent maintenance inspection, the sensor was reset and the flaps were checked for correct operation.

"The aircraft returned to service the following day. We of course notified the Australian Transport Safety Bureau, as per standard procedure." Landings with flaps and slats unextended must be made at higher speeds to prevent an aerodynamic stall.

Attempting to fly with either unevenly deployed would unbalance the aircraft and could cause it to roll, although modern aircraft have mechanisms that stop the panels deploying too far if a problem is sensed.

An ATSB spokesman said pilots trained for such incidents.

"A flapless approach is ... obviously not a routine activity that's done daily, but it's certainly a common thing that's practised in simulators," he said.
The Australian

NickN 13th August 2008 08:55 AM

Interesting, those are basically brand new aircraft.

Andrew P 13th August 2008 09:52 AM

DJ using Embraer on the SYD-MEl route????

Marty H 13th August 2008 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NickN (Post 10712)
Interesting, those are basically brand new aircraft.

They go u/s quite a bit, Embaer are much like the Hyundai of plane manufactuers.

Marty H 13th August 2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew P (Post 10716)
DJ using Embraer on the SYD-MEl route????

1345 departs MEL and Arrives back at around 1900 and terminates.

Andrew McLaughlin 13th August 2008 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew P (Post 10716)
DJ using Embraer on the SYD-MEl route????

You'll find the E-Jets on many east coast routes during off peak times where they struggle to fill a 737.

NickN 13th August 2008 11:33 AM

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Embaer are much like the Hyundai of plane manufactuers
If only Hyundai made cars like Embraer make planes!

Michael Arentz 13th August 2008 11:47 AM

I think news.com.au got it a little wrong.

http://www.extremechickenwrestling.com/borkedlgear.jpg

Andrew McLaughlin 13th August 2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty H (Post 10718)
They go u/s quite a bit, Embaer are much like the Hyundai of plane manufactuers.


That's pretty rough there Marty...according to Virgin they've got a dispatch rate up there with the 737s and improving.


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