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Erik H. Bakke 19th June 2019 01:57 PM

Qantas group signs for A321XLR
 
36 A321XLRs, where 26 are upgauged existing orders, 10 new.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...21xlrs-459147/

Phil Stevens 20th June 2019 02:48 AM

Any ideas on which routes will justify these and their range?

MarkR 20th June 2019 07:17 AM

The link posted had possible answers:

Quote:

It can fly routes like Cairns-Tokyo or Melbourne-Singapore, which existing narrowbodies can’t, and that changes the economics of lots of potential routes into Asia to make them not just physically possible but financially attractive."

Airbus launched the A321XLR at the Paris air show on 17 June, which offers range of 4,700nm - around 700nm more than the A321LR.

Erik H. Bakke 20th June 2019 09:06 AM

I'd also expect to find them on routes around the 7000-7400km range, routes the A321LR would also be able to fly, but where the XLR will be able to fly with higher loads as the increased max weights mean they'll be able to carry more fuel even with a full cabin.

PER-AKL, MEL/SYD-BKK, BNE-HKG, BNE-HNL, MEL-MNL, possibly to provide seasonal scale up/down or to supplement existing services.

MarkR 20th June 2019 03:01 PM

Joyce indicated the routes would be those currently serviced by JQ in the main, although he did say the final airline destination is not decided, its clear they are looking at JQ first, and as such the likely routes would be JQ ones. Make sense when it comes to adding the type to the AOC.

Adam W 20th June 2019 06:49 PM

Just putting this out there.

With the A321XLR going to JQ, what's the liklihood of the JQ 787s being tranferred to Qantas to allow retirement of the older A330s, the oldest of which is now 17 years?

Rowan McKeever 20th June 2019 07:52 PM

Qantas group signs for A321XLR
 
Wouldn’t rule it out, at least some of them, nor would I rule out that some of the A321neo fleet (including LR and XLR) will go to other airlines within the group besides Jetstar Australia. Indeed, discussion on another forum suggests the internal rumour at Qantas is a roughly equal split between QF, JQ and 3K.

MarkR 20th June 2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowan McKeever (Post 107827)
Indeed, discussion on another forum suggests the internal rumour at Qantas is a roughly equal split between QF, JQ and 3K.

3K wont be getting any of them, it’s withering on the vine with no further capital to be injected nor equipment supplied from Qantas group. I believe the Dreamliner will come into the QF fleet while the A321s for first five years are with JQ, much like the introduction of the 787s in the first place.

MarkR 18th February 2024 03:03 PM

35xA321XLRs will be announced Thursday for QF as 737 replacements

Lauren J 19th February 2024 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkR (Post 118308)
35xA321XLRs will be announced Thursday for QF as 737 replacements

Why wouldn't they choose an aircraft like the A320NEO or A321NX for that role? It seems weird to use a jet with such long legs as a replacement for a domestic aircraft.


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