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Old 4th June 2010, 08:56 AM
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Yeah, good luck with that Nigel.....
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Old 4th June 2010, 10:11 AM
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Which is why it will probably appear on the ATIS for the next while.

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Old 4th June 2010, 11:09 AM
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For the full 3 months perhaps?
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Old 5th June 2010, 01:11 PM
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Unfortunately I think there is a bit of "notam fatigue" coming into play. There are so many notams for Sydney it takes an eternity to go through them, and most of them do not affect you. It is no surprise really when the odd error is made. If its critical, it should be on the ATIS anyway.

The number if times I've seen a notam declaring 25/07 closed and the ILS off the air only to find out it is in use during the works was silly.

Boy who cried wolf syndrome coming in I think!
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Old 5th June 2010, 01:31 PM
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Maybe if you safety officers didn't put "local" times on the NOTAM's, then you wouldn't have that problem Nigel, .

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Old 5th June 2010, 01:38 PM
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I agree there is a glut of Notams (25 at the moment), although the numbers these days are a lot less than when the A380 upgrade works were in full swing!

The problem lies in that there is a responsibility to notify the industry of changes that may or will affect 'normal' operations, but the day an 'important' bit of info is left out and it's found to directly affect the safe operation of an aircraft, then we'll end up in court having to explain why it was omitted.

Looking at the current breakdown of the Notams published, a good number of the Notams are for night curfew works only (8 of the 25), so they don't affect RPT. Another 8 Notams have been raised by Airservices Australia. That leaves 9 that concern obstacles (and Sydney is very close to the city compared to most ports, so cranes will feature here more than most or all of the other cities), spotlights, bats, and lighting issues.
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Maybe if you safety officers didn't put "local" times on the NOTAM's, then you wouldn't have that problem Nigel, .

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We don't. All Notam times are in UTC.
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Wink Lady pilots?

Do they get NOTAWs?
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Old 5th June 2010, 02:31 PM
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This country is a democratic society. There are more male than female pilots, so the majority rules.
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Default Gentle reminder now - it's in your NOTAM stupid!

ATIS now reads:

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AS ADVISED BY NOTAM SYDNEY DELIVERY FREQ IS 133.8
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