Virgin blue finish lst-bne

[Jarden S]

According to DJ march in-flight magazine. They will be ending LST-BNE flights at the end of this month. Does that mean that there is no more direct flights from LST to Queensland as Jetstar pulled their flights also a while back. I guess its a sign of the times. Are HBA flights to QLD still running on either airline?

[Michael Dawson]

DJ did say when they launched that service that it was a seasonal service, meaning when demand is there they will operate it.

Michael

[Jason Carruthers]

Jetstar still fly BNE-LST 4x weekly and the flight is still in the schedules for November. Jetstar no longer fly BNE-HBA. But DJ maintain a daily nonstop BNE-HBA flight as well as many one stop connections via SYD/MEL to both LST/HBA

[Ryan K]

From memory, when JQ ceased its BNE-HBA flights, they said that the Launceston flights were doing quite well with reasonable loads. It's no wonder they didn't have good loads on the Hobart flights - the return flight to BNE didn't arrive until just before midnight, whereas the DJ flight left in the early afternoon.

With regards to Virgin Blue's BNE-LST service, this was only ever going to be a seasonal service and may be back next summer.

[Kain C]

It's no wonder they didn't have good loads on the Hobart flights - the return flight to BNE didn't arrive until just before midnight, whereas the DJ flight left in the early afternoon.

Loads can't have been that bad. HBA-BNE had the 2nd highest load factor of any route in the country for the year to date up until it was canned by JQ. The only reason that the LST-BNE stayed and the HBA-BNE was canned is that the LST-BNE receives government subsidies, where as the HBA-BNE does not.

[Radi K]

The 170s have been moved to the new TSV flights in April. OOL/CBR/ROK/CNS

[Jarden S]

Originally Posted by Radi K

The 170s have been moved to the new TSV flights in April. OOL/CBR/ROK/CNS

So that's where the aircraft comes from to start all these new flights out of TSV. I was wondering where they were switching the capacity from to do it. The new flights per-drw and mel-drw that 737 also would have came from somewhere else. I don't think Virgin are grounding any planes as such they just utilize them on new routes. Which in a business sense is very good. Also the mel-nan and adl-nan are 2 more. Its good that Virgin is doing a lot of expansion this year despite the recession. What new routes have Qantas or Jetstar announced lately in Australia? I can only think of Jetstar new nz dom services which just replace QF nz routes which is not really a capacity increase. They must have parked up a few planes already.

[Owen H]

Originally Posted by Jarden S

So that's where the aircraft comes from to start all these new flights out of TSV. I was wondering where they were switching the capacity from to do it. The new flights per-drw and mel-drw that 737 also would have came from somewhere else. I don't think Virgin are grounding any planes as such they just utilize them on new routes. Which in a business sense is very good. Also the mel-nan and adl-nan are 2 more. Its good that Virgin is doing a lot of expansion this year despite the recession. What new routes have Qantas or Jetstar announced lately in Australia? I can only think of Jetstar new nz dom services which just replace QF nz routes which is not really a capacity increase. They must have parked up a few planes already.

What a strange comment!

You start by saying that they are just simply re-arranging capacity rather than grounding them, and then say that they're doing a lot of expansion!

New routes - yes.
Expansion - no.

[Ryan K]

Originally Posted by Kain C

Loads can't have been that bad. HBA-BNE had the 2nd highest load factor of any route in the country for the year to date up until it was canned by JQ. The only reason that the LST-BNE stayed and the HBA-BNE was canned is that the LST-BNE receives government subsidies, where as the HBA-BNE does not.

Why would JQ have canned this route if loads were so high? Also, do you know why the LST route is subsidised (and by how much) and HBA wasn't?

[Jarden S]

Originally Posted by Owen H

What a strange comment!

You start by saying that they are just simply re-arranging capacity rather than grounding them, and then say that they're doing a lot of expansion!

New routes - yes.
Expansion - no.

The main point I was getting at is. Virgin are starting all these new routes in a downturn where Qantas is not.