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Old 19th June 2019, 01:57 PM
Erik H. Bakke Erik H. Bakke is offline
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Default Qantas group signs for A321XLR

36 A321XLRs, where 26 are upgauged existing orders, 10 new.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...21xlrs-459147/
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Old 20th June 2019, 02:48 AM
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Any ideas on which routes will justify these and their range?
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Old 20th June 2019, 07:17 AM
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The link posted had possible answers:

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It can fly routes like Cairns-Tokyo or Melbourne-Singapore, which existing narrowbodies can’t, and that changes the economics of lots of potential routes into Asia to make them not just physically possible but financially attractive."

Airbus launched the A321XLR at the Paris air show on 17 June, which offers range of 4,700nm - around 700nm more than the A321LR.
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Old 20th June 2019, 09:06 AM
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I'd also expect to find them on routes around the 7000-7400km range, routes the A321LR would also be able to fly, but where the XLR will be able to fly with higher loads as the increased max weights mean they'll be able to carry more fuel even with a full cabin.

PER-AKL, MEL/SYD-BKK, BNE-HKG, BNE-HNL, MEL-MNL, possibly to provide seasonal scale up/down or to supplement existing services.
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Old 20th June 2019, 03:01 PM
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Joyce indicated the routes would be those currently serviced by JQ in the main, although he did say the final airline destination is not decided, its clear they are looking at JQ first, and as such the likely routes would be JQ ones. Make sense when it comes to adding the type to the AOC.
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Old 20th June 2019, 06:49 PM
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Just putting this out there.

With the A321XLR going to JQ, what's the liklihood of the JQ 787s being tranferred to Qantas to allow retirement of the older A330s, the oldest of which is now 17 years?
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Old 20th June 2019, 07:52 PM
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Default Qantas group signs for A321XLR

Wouldn’t rule it out, at least some of them, nor would I rule out that some of the A321neo fleet (including LR and XLR) will go to other airlines within the group besides Jetstar Australia. Indeed, discussion on another forum suggests the internal rumour at Qantas is a roughly equal split between QF, JQ and 3K.
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Old 20th June 2019, 09:30 PM
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Indeed, discussion on another forum suggests the internal rumour at Qantas is a roughly equal split between QF, JQ and 3K.
3K wont be getting any of them, itís withering on the vine with no further capital to be injected nor equipment supplied from Qantas group. I believe the Dreamliner will come into the QF fleet while the A321s for first five years are with JQ, much like the introduction of the 787s in the first place.
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