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Old 31st December 2008, 06:15 AM
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That was the point of my question actually, the drop in seats between the 777 and the A330.

Also, don't the regionally configured A330's have less comfortable seating than the 777 configured for long haul?
Define less comfortable? Gee, they are configured for regional flights, Perth to Singapore is regional, not long haul.
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Old 31st December 2008, 06:37 AM
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"The Business Class cabin will consist of 30 seats, in a 2-2-2 configuration (distinct from the existing B777 on these routes, which is in a 2-3-2 layout). Economy will feature 255 seats, in a 2-4-2 configuration."

No mention of course that the 777 is wider than the 330 enabling the 777 to have an extra J row
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"The Business Class cabin will consist of 30 seats, in a 2-2-2 configuration (distinct from the existing B777 on these routes, which is in a 2-3-2 layout). Economy will feature 255 seats, in a 2-4-2 configuration."

No mention of course that the 777 is wider than the 330 enabling the 777 to have an extra J row
Although a 2-2-2 in an A330 gives a wider seat than 2-4-2 in a 777, so your point is?
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Although a 2-2-2 in an A330 gives a wider seat than 2-4-2 in a 777, so your point is?
It was never mentioned that the 777 is wider perhaps giving the impression that the 330 seating is actually something it may not be. What's with the A.net agression?
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Old 31st December 2008, 07:30 AM
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It was never mentioned that the 777 is wider perhaps giving the impression that the 330 seating is actually something it may not be. What's with the A.net agression?
Sorry if it I am coming across agressive, but sometimes I really don't understand what people are getting at in their posts. You for example said "No mention of course that the 777 is wider than the 330 enabling the 777 to have an extra J row", so I raised the point that it is irellivent how wide a 777 is, the seating will in fact be wider and indeed they are having the same number. Now if they were putting 2-3-2 on an A330 you would have a point.
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Sorry if it I am coming across agressive, but sometimes I really don't understand what people are getting at in their posts. You for example said "No mention of course that the 777 is wider than the 330 enabling the 777 to have an extra J row", so I raised the point that it is irellivent how wide a 777 is, the seating will in fact be wider and indeed they are having the same number. Now if they were putting 2-3-2 on an A330 you would have a point.
No worries. I know, and you know that the 777 is wider, and the 330 is not narrower than 6/7th's of a 777 but the 'spin' if you like, in the article, is designed to impress potential J customers and insinuate that they have 6 seats in a 330 taking up the same space that 7 take up on the 777.
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No worries. I know, and you know that the 777 is wider, and the 330 is not narrower than 6/7th's of a 777 but the 'spin' if you like, in the article, is designed to impress potential J customers and insinuate that they have 6 seats in a 330 taking up the same space that 7 take up on the 777.
The real story would be the reduction in J leg room going from a long haul config a/c to a regional config a/c. But hey for such a short flight, it makes perfect sense to match the product to the market.
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Define less comfortable? Gee, they are configured for regional flights, Perth to Singapore is regional, not long haul.
neither is Melbourne, yet they manage a 77W & a 744 for what is essentially a regional flight.

SQ have decked it out with the exact same capacity as QF with the exception of 2 seats and still offer the same amount of flights per day.

plus Perth has the added bonus of Jetstar & Tiger offering seats to Singapore.
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Would have thought it was the same business class seats uniform across the fleet?

Anyway those 777-200's were always destined to the regional routes with the de-rated engines
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Would have thought it was the same business class seats uniform across the fleet?
Why? Plenty of airlines have different products to suit different market types. Take QF for example, they have different J seats in domestic, trans tasman (which would be like SQ's regional routes) and long haul. Same too with their service levels and meal options.

Other airlines that come to mind straight away with different products for different markets would be Thai and BA. On the latter, the BA short haul J seat is the same as the Y, so all you pay for is a different meal and to sit up front, although if you are on the left no one is seated in seat B, but the right it is 3 across.

Will be interesting to see what this new SQ J seat is all about. Anyone have any pics or more detail about it?
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