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Old 20th June 2020, 12:46 PM
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No Space at ASP.
That’s not the case. Stage 1 is 18 wide bodies and they are already at stage 2 with 100Ha available, 80 spaces in total.

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Old 20th June 2020, 04:05 PM
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Mark let me re-phase

ASP does not have the space to suit QF's current needs.
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Old 20th June 2020, 05:56 PM
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Mark let me re-phase

ASP does not have the space to suit QF's current needs.
I think they do, it’s just that Mojave is a better place if your trying to sell your planes or part out, which is the case most likely with 6 of the A380s and the 744s
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Old 28th June 2020, 06:54 AM
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Default It was busy at Alice Yesterday with arrivals

Thailand: Three 777's of Nok Scoot HS-XBF, XBG, XBA

Singapore: Two A-380's 9V-SKP, SKQ

TigerAir/Scoot: Two 787 Dreamliners 9V-OFB, OFD


The three 777s are going back to SQ as NOK Scoot has been liquidated https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...ut-of-business

SQ222 popped in to collect the crews.

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Old 28th June 2020, 11:50 AM
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ASP now has around 30 wide bodies stored which was their original capacity.

The proposed expansion plans (as of this morning) have not yet been approved.

So they are near/at capacity.
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Old 28th June 2020, 01:17 PM
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ASP now has around 30 wide bodies stored which was their original capacity.

The proposed expansion plans (as of this morning) have not yet been approved.

So they are near/at capacity.
Not that many (15 by my count) and they confirmed in March they had to go ahead to expand to 100, in fact the NT govt tipped in money in February to support the expansion, and it’s got ALC approval.

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Old 28th June 2020, 02:17 PM
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It is one thing to say they have approval to expand; however, what is involved? It would not be as simple as moving the fence back and start accepting aircraft. Wouldn't your comment at post #113 substantiate Greg's assertion that ASP is not suited to QF's needs? Additionally, a great many of QFs aircraft would seem to be rotating in and out of short term storage at various capital city airports, so it may be easier for QF to access these aircraft as and when required.
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Old 28th June 2020, 02:49 PM
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Silkair - 6 x 737MAX8
Singapore Airlines - 6 A388's, 3 772's
Scoot - 4 A320's, 2 788's
NokScoot - 5 772's

Plus

Several QQ Fokkers and other aircraft stored before COVID.

Also the infrastructure to extend the facility needs to built including constructing taxiways and pads capable of supporting the aircraft weight.

Based on APAS website

Dry, arid, low humidity environment ideal for the preservation of aircraft
Infrastructure allowing APAS to accept all aircraft type
Stage 1 capacity for 18 wide body aircraft
Aircraft parking per OEM requirements
100Ha of storage space allowing significant future expansion
Dedicated defueling pad with full environmental safeguards

https://www.apas.com.au/services/aircraft-storage/

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Old 28th June 2020, 03:20 PM
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Silkair - 6 x 737MAX8
Singapore Airlines - 6 A388's, 3 772's
Scoot - 4 A320's, 2 788's
NokScoot - 5 772's

Plus

Several QQ Fokkers and other aircraft stored before COVID.

Also the infrastructure to extend the facility needs to built including constructing taxiways and pads capable of supporting the aircraft weight.

Based on APAS website

Dry, arid, low humidity environment ideal for the preservation of aircraft
Infrastructure allowing APAS to accept all aircraft type
Stage 1 capacity for 18 wide body aircraft
Aircraft parking per OEM requirements
100Ha of storage space allowing significant future expansion
Dedicated defueling pad with full environmental safeguards

https://www.apas.com.au/services/aircraft-storage/
So 16 wide bodies
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Old 28th June 2020, 03:25 PM
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Wouldn't your comment at post #113 substantiate Greg's assertion that ASP is not suited to QF's needs? Additionally, a great many of QFs aircraft would seem to be rotating in and out of short term storage at various capital city airports, so it may be easier for QF to access these aircraft as and when required.
The assertion was they had no room, my post was simply pointing out Mojave is closer to part out an aircraft or sell it, so more suited to QF needs which is now confirmed given the aircraft are being retired. Airport planning approval is complex, and it looks like the feds are holding up further expansion, which will be needed, long term storage will increasingly be needed over the next twelve months.

I don’t believe the NZ 777s have arrive yet
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