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Old 8th April 2008, 01:59 PM
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Sounds like a further delay announcement soon
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Boeing to provide Dreamliner update

Boeing is expected to announce further delays to its 787 Dreamliner program early Thursday Australian time, a further blow to the longhaul expansion plans of Jetstar, which awaits the plane. The US airframer is holding a press conference tomorrow in the US during which it “will discuss progress to date”. Airbus CEO Tom Enders said its rival to the 787, the A350, was still on track.
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Old 8th April 2008, 04:07 PM
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772LR to Jetstar and then to QF? as A330 vs A380 for Qantas.....
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Old 8th April 2008, 04:12 PM
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772LR to Jetstar and then to QF? as A330 vs A380 for Qantas.....
Wishful thinking I would say. Isn't the 777 line more or less full as is?
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Old 8th April 2008, 09:45 PM
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777s would be nice (777-300ER would be even nicer) but probably won't happen, unless Boeing is willing to subsidise the costs of introducing a new type of aircraft to the Qantas fleet e.g. Maintenance, Crewing, Flight Training and the lot. At least with the A380 saga, Qantas got more airframes of what they had already in their fleet (A330s).
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Old 9th April 2008, 12:20 AM
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QF/JQ won't get the 777, its really far too late to be trying to introduce these into a fleet.

However, this just goes to show that QF/JQ should have ordered the 777 many many years ago! JQ could be flying to the USA now with a 773ER or 772LR, and have beaten Virgin to this route. However it is clear that Virgin is not that interested in being low cost for their long haul international!

Only a matter of time before Virgin Blue goes full service as well I think, and then joins Star Alliance for domestic flights! This is just my thoughts, I have no inside information at at all!
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Old 9th April 2008, 01:51 AM
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I think that when/if Tiger leaves the market because of unsustainable fares, i think we will see VirginBlue become full service airline, and once they can get the funding, start up an Extreme LCC offshoot.
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Old 9th April 2008, 12:53 PM
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I would guess that QF will either go for discounts on existing 738 orders / options or a straight cash payout. They are unlikely to want to introduce another new type in the short-term given the workload involved in introducing the A380 and 787s over the next couple of years.

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Old 9th April 2008, 01:19 PM
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The delivery of the Boeing 787 will be a further six to nine month late, the aircraft manufacturer is expected to announce tomorrow morning, Australia tme. Investors now predict the first aircraft may not be delivered until at least September 2009, despite Boeing claiming it will deliver 109 aircraft next year. Boeing has received 895 orders for the new aircraft.
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Old 10th April 2008, 02:36 AM
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This is Dreamliner news coming from BBC:

Boeing has announced another major delay to delivery of its new 787 Dreamliner aircraft.
The plane is now about 15 months behind its original schedule. The first flight will be in the fourth quarter of 2008.
The target for delivery of the first plane to Japan's All Nippon Airways is now the third quarter of 2009. The previous target was early 2009.
Boeing has blamed slow progress on assembly and continuing problems with suppliers for the delays.
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In a statement, Boeing said the new timetable included "additional schedule margin to reduce risk of further delays on the program".
"We deeply regret the disruption and disappointment these changes will cause for our customers and we will work closely with each of them to minimize the impact," Scott Carson, head of Boeing's commercial airplanes division.
But the firm's shares rose nearly 4% in early trading after it said the latest delays would not have an adverse impact on its profits this year.
Boeing had received 802 orders for the Dreamliner by the start of 2008, which makes it the planemaker's fastest selling model.
It will be Boeing's first completely new aircraft since 1995.
It takes advantage of new technology that allows much of it to be made of plastic composites instead of aluminium, which means it is lighter and, Boeing claims, will consume 20% less fuel than other, similar-sized planes.
It also has a greater range than similar-sized planes, which Boeing hopes will mean it can open up new, direct long-haul routes.
This strategy is in contrast to the new Airbus A380, which also suffered from hefty delays before it finally entered service in October.
The A380 is designed to carry larger numbers of people between hubs where they can change onto smaller aircraft to reach their final destinations.
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Old 10th April 2008, 04:13 AM
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No surprise really and good to see they have given the thing a more realistic time frame rather than rush like they had orginally planned.

I note that the quote ANA's revised delivery time and not their original time.
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