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Old 4th March 2009, 03:18 PM
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Thanks for the clarification, Andrew. I was unaware of the operational issues involved.

I know that LAX is the world's fourth busiest airport by aircraft movements but the point I was trying to make was that surely the administrators, managers and planners could have foreseen potential problems years ago and been proactive in finding solutions before the A380 started flying into LAX.

Would the problems coming to light now have been apparent during route proving flights or demos at LAX ? If there were any doubts, did the administrators advise QANTAS and other operators accordingly ? Would QANTAS have overlooked any such advice and carried on regardless ? I don't know !

I guess Emirates and Singapore (and other future operators of the A380) are following this saga with interest as it may well affect any plans they might have to fly their A380s into LAX.

I wonder if QANTAS would consider withdrawing the A380 from LAX altogether ?
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Old 4th March 2009, 03:47 PM
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given the financial state of CA I highly doubt that the problem will be fixed soon, LAX has been in a constant state of repair for years now, and its still a hole!
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Old 4th March 2009, 04:05 PM
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He's King Of The Jews, of course he travels with El Al. I heard he hates the tight security though.
You've got the wrong bloke there Nick... The King of the Jews is Jesus Christ...

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It's not a widely published thing. Apparently he travels on El Al, et al!
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Old 4th March 2009, 05:08 PM
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You've got the wrong bloke there Nick... The King of the Jews is Jesus Christ...



Makes sense
some might say its Theodore Herzl...
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Old 4th March 2009, 05:25 PM
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I remember once, after a ten hour flight from Nadi, we had to hold out on a remote taxyway for 45 mintues to wait for our bay to be opened. Pax not happy ....
Happened to me about a month ago on the A380 but this was the full situation.

While checking the arrivals and departures the night before for QF93: MEL-LAX I noticed that it said QF93 as cancelled.

Rang Qantas and they denied any problem, I pushed the point and they came back to me and said yes we are now flying MEL-SYD-LAX to pick up people who were on the cancelled A380 SYD-LAX.

Original plan was a 4 hour delay getting into LAX, and I would miss my onward flights (not connecting and not on QF) So I rebooked and paid lots of $$$$ for new flights leaving 8 hours between the original arrival time and scheduled departure time of the LAX onwards flight.

We left MEL on time, landed in SYD and headed to the lounge.

Scheduled departure I cannot remember now, but the time came and past and no announcement. Lots of us kept going to the counter and asking when we would be leaving and we were told soon soon.

Boarded the plane 1 hour later than scheduled, and we sat and sat and sat. Eventually the Captain came on and said due to a "catering issue, and a broken fridge in first class, they needed to re-cater some more food and we would be leaving in about 15 minutes. Eventually left 2 hour late out of SYD and landed at LAX 6 hours late, leaving 2 hours to clear customs etc etc and walk to the other terminal.

After landing we taxied and stopped out near the remote bays and waited and waited again... The Captain came on again, so we expected bad news, we had to wait for a plane to clear out gate first. 30 mins late another announcment that the plane in our gate cannot push back yet as they have a door malfunction and they are waiting on technicians. Eventually got to the gate after a 1 hour delay of sitting at the back area of the airport, with the Police escort.

This gave us 1 hour to get to the next flight, which we managed as there was no-one at all in front of us in immigration and the bags were on the seperate First/Business carousel

Also got a $300 voucher in the mail a few days later as an apology for the delays. So I can forgive QF for this ***** up!

As for LAX airport the whole TBIT area for the A380 flights is a shambles at the moment, so much work going on, dark, messy but at least a few of the gate areas are nice and new.
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Old 4th March 2009, 07:07 PM
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Oh ok thanks for that, I now have a better understanding on that Andrew. Boy they all needed to really think ahead with this plane a bit more didn't they.

Interesting how one big plane can bring a whole airport to a stand still.
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Boy they all needed to really think ahead with this plane a bit more didn't they.
Perhaps it's more a case of airports not thinking a little more ahead in terms of future aircraft size potential?
The same can be said about road designs, where they plan for the current traffic flow at the time of planning and not for 20-30 years time! But that's for another forum.
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