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Old 7th July 2013, 05:45 PM
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I can only imagine what the crew of that UA 747 were thinking.
I heard the ATC recording and they reported "two or three people that are moving and apparently survived" on the ground near the threshold and they needed attention. That must have been quite a sight for them.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kBLM-6dUGs

here is the recording..
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Old 7th July 2013, 07:36 PM
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The ILS may have something to do with it???

Wasn't Asiana rated up there with one of the safest airlines in the world.

My condolences to the families who lost loved ones.

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Old 7th July 2013, 07:54 PM
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I heard the ATC recording and they reported "two or three people that are moving and apparently survived" on the ground near the threshold and they needed attention. That must have been quite a sight for them.
Do you think the people they saw were thrown from the aircraft during the "skid" or was this post evacuation?

As you can see the aicraft was quite a distance from the "numbers"



This pic also shows the damage to the sea wall. Very obvious early touchdown! - don't send these guys to Saint Marteen!

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Old 8th July 2013, 06:50 AM
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In the current live NTSB news conference they have advised the aircraft stalled on approach. No mechanical problems.

VREF was 137kts in Flap 30. Was cleared for visual approach RWY 28L.

7 seconds before touchdown a pilot called low speed and stick shaker activated, thrust was idle during late stages of descent. About 1.5 seconds before impact they called go-around and thrust increased but it was too late.

Sadly looks like pilot error.

All based on CVR and FDR. Basically it sounds like THY 737 in Amsterdam.
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Old 8th July 2013, 07:21 AM
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Old 8th July 2013, 08:19 AM
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Thanks for that update Radi. Puts to bed my thoughts then.

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Apparently some NAV aids at SFO were inoperative, including glideslope. Sounds like that could be a key factor.
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Old 8th July 2013, 09:19 AM
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I heard that the ILS was not operating on Runway 28L, however the PAPI was.

New video of the actual impact has emerged and can be seen on news.com.au (the end of the skid on the dirt is dramatic).
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Old 8th July 2013, 12:02 PM
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Reports that it's a possibility that one of the victims of this may have actually been killed by a rescue vehicle.
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