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Old 8th March 2014, 02:18 PM
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Hi Greg

9M-MRO will be the fourth hull B777 hull loss after BA, Asiana and

Egyptair SU-GBP B777-266ER c/n 28423 l/n 0071 FF 05/05/97 DD
23/05/97 written off on 29 Jul 2011 at Cairo airport after a cockpit fire on
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Old 8th March 2014, 02:22 PM
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ABCNews24 is currently running live reports.

ABC site has a live blog with updates:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-0...issing/5308006
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Old 8th March 2014, 02:24 PM
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Thanks, Bob

Still seems to be the 1st B777 in-flight loss
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Old 8th March 2014, 04:29 PM
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9M-MRO B7772H6ER (C/n 28420 L/n 404) Hex 75008F Rolls Royce Trent 800 Delivered 31/05/2002

9/08/2012 Aviation Safety Network : A taxiing Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777 passenger plane (9M-MRO),
flight MH389, contaced the tail of a China Eastern Airlines A340 plane, B-6050, waiting on the
taxiway at Pudong International Airport.No one was injured.

By Justin Dear and (AFP)
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Kuala Lumpur — 06:26 GMT - Ships sent - Faridah Shuib, a spokeswoman for the Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency says Malaysian authorities have dispatched a plane, two helicopters and four vessels to search seas off its east coast in the South China Sea.
The Philippines says it is sending three navy patrol boats and a surveillance plane to help efforts.

05:49 GMT - Search area - The important thing now for officials is to locate exactly where the plane may have gone down to narrow the search area.
The Vietnamese government on its website has already said the plane lost contact in Ca Mau province airspace before it had entered contact with Ho Chi Minh City air traffic control.

9M-MRO departing Amsterdam
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Old 8th March 2014, 08:30 PM
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Still nothing found.

According to :

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-co...plane-1.502767

"MAS' Executive, Media Relations and Strategic Communications Malini Saudranrajan said the last known position of the aircraft was 065515 North (longitude) and 1033443 East (latitude)".

Which is much closer to the Malaysian Coast than to Vietnam.

You have to wonder though, it was supposed to be about 2 hours out of KLIA and that location would be less than 1 hour out. Seems to be lots of confusion as to just where and when it was last reported at.
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Old 8th March 2014, 10:39 PM
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More regarding search efforts:

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-co...coast-1.502464

Go to the bottom of the story and click on page 2.

Note: The different locations, Sth China Sea or Gulf of Thailand.
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Old 9th March 2014, 05:58 AM
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quite concerning to know that two of the passengers on the plane were traveling on stolen passports..The Austrian & Italian were actually never on the flight.
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From Google News ...

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Vietnamese air force planes have spotted two large oil slicks off the southern tip of Vietnam which may be from a missing Malaysian jetliner that was carrying 239 people, including six Australians.

The discovery of the slicks provided the first clue in the disappearance of Flight 370, a Boeing Co. 777-200 that was an hour into a flight from Kuala Lumpur yesterday. Twin sheens of oil spread as long as 15 kilometers south of Vietnam's Tho Chu island, the country's government said.
Disappointing that it has taken so long to locate the aircraft in this busy airspace.

Malaysia are best equipped to support the sea search, with 12 EC725s helicopters, having a 723nm range and just over 6 hours endurance. They also have C-130 aircraft employed in the search, however it will take some time to deploy these assets to the search area.

Vietnam only has one Antonov An-28 and four Beriev Be-12 seaplanes.
  • Two passengers travelling on stolen passports could suggest a hijacking, although physical security at the airport, and on the aircraft, should make this difficult. There have been no confirmed reports of the aircraft landing at any other airport. The recent hijacking of an Ethiopian B767 was by the co-pilot, not a passenger.
  • Previous wing tip damage from an accident back in 2012 should not be related.
  • Fuel system icing issues with the B777 Trent 800 powerplants, similar to the British Airways accident back in 2008, is a potential cause, although Rolls Royce developed a fix to prevent the problem recurring.
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The two travelling on false passports, combined with the FR plot showing that although altitude reduced to zero, speed remained almost constant, does make this disappearance a little more troubling at this early stage.

But analogies with AF447 are also there. Will be interesting to see what telemetry was sent in the moments before the a/c disappeared.
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Old 9th March 2014, 11:17 AM
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you would think that if someone's passport was stolen last year then this would alert passport controls in all countries to be extra vigilant when a passenger shows up with that passport , also the passport number should show up as stolen once scanned . And once the genuine owner of the passport has their passport re-issued they would need to provide additional proof of id each time checking in and going through security if needed ,
An italian and an Austrian both had their passports stolen while in Thailand last year ? ( according to BBC ) sounds a bit odd , I travelled through Thailand / Singapore and Malaysia last year , and in my opinion the only weak link was thailand .... Singapore and Malaysia are very strict with passport controls and its hard to believe in this day and age that people still get away with travelling on false passports . if that is indeed what has happened
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