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MarkR 20th June 2020 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 110009)
No Space at ASP.

That’s not the case. Stage 1 is 18 wide bodies and they are already at stage 2 with 100Ha available, 80 spaces in total.

Greg Hyde 20th June 2020 04:05 PM

Mark let me re-phase

ASP does not have the space to suit QF's current needs.

MarkR 20th June 2020 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 110011)
Mark let me re-phase

ASP does not have the space to suit QF's current needs.

I think they do, it’s just that Mojave is a better place if your trying to sell your planes or part out, which is the case most likely with 6 of the A380s and the 744s

MarkR 28th June 2020 06:54 AM

It was busy at Alice Yesterday with arrivals
 
Thailand: Three 777's of Nok Scoot HS-XBF, XBG, XBA

Singapore: Two A-380's 9V-SKP, SKQ

TigerAir/Scoot: Two 787 Dreamliners 9V-OFB, OFD


The three 777s are going back to SQ as NOK Scoot has been liquidated https://www.bangkokpost.com/business...ut-of-business

SQ222 popped in to collect the crews.

Greg Hyde 28th June 2020 11:50 AM

ASP now has around 30 wide bodies stored which was their original capacity.

The proposed expansion plans (as of this morning) have not yet been approved.

So they are near/at capacity.

MarkR 28th June 2020 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 110086)
ASP now has around 30 wide bodies stored which was their original capacity.

The proposed expansion plans (as of this morning) have not yet been approved.

So they are near/at capacity.

Not that many (15 by my count) and they confirmed in March they had to go ahead to expand to 100, in fact the NT govt tipped in money in February to support the expansion, and it’s got ALC approval.

Gary Smith8 28th June 2020 02:17 PM

It is one thing to say they have approval to expand; however, what is involved? It would not be as simple as moving the fence back and start accepting aircraft. Wouldn't your comment at post #113 substantiate Greg's assertion that ASP is not suited to QF's needs? Additionally, a great many of QFs aircraft would seem to be rotating in and out of short term storage at various capital city airports, so it may be easier for QF to access these aircraft as and when required.

Greg Hyde 28th June 2020 02:49 PM

Silkair - 6 x 737MAX8
Singapore Airlines - 6 A388's, 3 772's
Scoot - 4 A320's, 2 788's
NokScoot - 5 772's

Plus

Several QQ Fokkers and other aircraft stored before COVID.

Also the infrastructure to extend the facility needs to built including constructing taxiways and pads capable of supporting the aircraft weight.

Based on APAS website

Dry, arid, low humidity environment ideal for the preservation of aircraft
Infrastructure allowing APAS to accept all aircraft type
Stage 1 capacity for 18 wide body aircraft
Aircraft parking per OEM requirements
100Ha of storage space allowing significant future expansion
Dedicated defueling pad with full environmental safeguards

https://www.apas.com.au/services/aircraft-storage/

MarkR 28th June 2020 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Hyde (Post 110089)
Silkair - 6 x 737MAX8
Singapore Airlines - 6 A388's, 3 772's
Scoot - 4 A320's, 2 788's
NokScoot - 5 772's

Plus

Several QQ Fokkers and other aircraft stored before COVID.

Also the infrastructure to extend the facility needs to built including constructing taxiways and pads capable of supporting the aircraft weight.

Based on APAS website

Dry, arid, low humidity environment ideal for the preservation of aircraft
Infrastructure allowing APAS to accept all aircraft type
Stage 1 capacity for 18 wide body aircraft
Aircraft parking per OEM requirements
100Ha of storage space allowing significant future expansion
Dedicated defueling pad with full environmental safeguards

https://www.apas.com.au/services/aircraft-storage/

So 16 wide bodies ;)

MarkR 28th June 2020 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Smith8 (Post 110088)
Wouldn't your comment at post #113 substantiate Greg's assertion that ASP is not suited to QF's needs? Additionally, a great many of QFs aircraft would seem to be rotating in and out of short term storage at various capital city airports, so it may be easier for QF to access these aircraft as and when required.

The assertion was they had no room, my post was simply pointing out Mojave is closer to part out an aircraft or sell it, so more suited to QF needs which is now confirmed given the aircraft are being retired. Airport planning approval is complex, and it looks like the feds are holding up further expansion, which will be needed, long term storage will increasingly be needed over the next twelve months.

I don’t believe the NZ 777s have arrive yet ;)


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