Qantas - Emirates Announcement Next Week
 

According to The Australian - Australian Business Traveller, the Qantas - Emirates announcement will be made next week.

And a word from the SMH:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/qanta...#ixzz256Sl1t4E

QANTAS flights to Europe will now stop over in Dubai
 

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/business/brea...#ixzz25e2LRUBC

does that mean QF passengers ex ports like PER, ADL, BNE, etc are now solely confined to flying Emirates in order to get to Europe?

A supposed increased capacity on QF to SIN, so perhaps still able to get to EU ports (via SIN) on QF/BA, QF/CX metals and still remaining in a Oneworld alliance...

Unless I am reading it wrong?

Yep thats correct.

Even though QF could technically fly from ADL,PER to DXB with their A332 and BNE with their 744ER. But they wont.

Just another nail in the coffin for QF customers from these cities. Just further proof that QF is so SYD/MEL centric and doesnt care about these passengers from PER,ADL and BNE.

I guess PER passengers can fly QF PER-SIN and connect with the EK flight that flies MEL-SIN-DXB-Europe..

so it seems they have some decent options too if it's allowed?!

http://www.qantasandemirates.com/pages.html#asia

interesting documents about the arrangement.

It seems that way...

http://www.qantasandemirates.com/pages.html#asia
...and

http://www.qantasandemirates.com/dow...0QUESTIONS.pdf

Youtube promo already.

Good news for both airlines - and ending the agreement with BA is another positive.

Does that mean you can earn QF Freq Flyer points by flying Emirates?

Sure does, and the opposite way with Skywards! AS well as Status credit as well...

Good news.

But Alan Joyce puts himself on a pedrstal now - clever boy!? :rolleyes:

I just hope this doesn't bring Emirates down.

...and i sincerely hope that next time i book a European trip with EK i dont get shoved on to a QF flight.

:)

Without having specific knowledge of where your loyalties / frequent flyer status' etc lie .. why on earth would you want to travel QF PER-SIN to then connect with EK SIN-DXB when you presumably have the option to fly EK PER-DXB direct?

A plane geek would surely love the extra sectors, but given your history of lamenting the lack of options QF provide out of PER, I would have thought you would stick to the most direct method and avoid the lengthy QF alternative altogether.

IMHO Emirates will gut Qantas and it will be a shadow of its former self soon enough. EK have done this with all previous airlines they have been closely associated with in the past.

Did QF give EK any of the LHR slots they so desperately wanted?

Well with no QF metal from ADL BNE or PER to London, I guess that sums it up. So if Nev & Bev want to fly QF metal they have to go via SYD or MEL right? For those that like EK out of BNE they will prevail and competitors like EY and SQ will give other options, and the Chinese too. I don't put much into the whole QF Asian thing... It won't connect anywhere so why would I bother? Just fly SQ or MH etc. if I wanna go via Asia right? Or Lowcost on AirAsia or Scoot? Pretty much the end of QF out of BNE except LAX and some smaller stuff like MNL and HKG that won't connect to BA anymore right? Hard to get excited except it means survival mmm

Has there ever been QF metal from ADL, PER or BNE? Not really, as you would have to change, in most likely, SIN or another asian location.

BNE, to FRA, but thats it...

So now, when EK commence ADL, you can still get to LHR on QF flight no's, just on EK metal to DXB then QF from there, as you will PER and BNE. You will still earn the same QF FF points if it is EK or QF.

Alternatively, catch the QF metal to SIN, as you would now, and then get a oneworld alliance carrier from there, but will the service be any better, I think not...

Travel Daily update today...
So basically those Singapore connections won't really be there anymore.... I love Singapore Airport... Terminal 1 is gonna get kinda quiet around midnight now.... end of an era I spose :(

Now thats what i'm wondering...With the cancellation of the SIN/FRA and
SIN/LHR flights out of Sydney and Melbourne, what is going to happen with flights to places like SIN and HKG for that matter on QF Metal?
In effect,they are cancelling all flights that currently operate from SYD and MEL to SIN. I realise they are saying that they will still fly to these places with their own aircraft, but i wonder what the schedules will be like,what the capacity will be like and the big one,what equipment will be used???

And i am just wondering,with the delivery of the first of their 787s in 2013, will JQ somehow be involved with these Australia to Asia flights and maybe not so much QF?

Wouldn't mind hearing some others' thoughts on this.

Jim

You can still get to FCO and/CDG on a QF flight number, still QF ex Aust to DXB and then EK ex DXB...

We need not be so precious about these 'legacy' alliances and move forward into exciting times...:D

Jim,

I recall reading that flights will be re-aligned to better meet's business needs in the Asian region... A few A33X will be deployed on these routes, wether these are ex JQ or mainline, i dont know... An increase in flights, I remember a capacity rise of c. 40%, so I think it would be a better money maker for QF.

No doubt the hotel that QF uses for crew in Singapore will cry poor too, as well as Changi itself.

I have long avoided using QF to go to Europe, as I have an aversion to having to go to LHR and then transfer. Next time I might give it a try via DXB.

How are they going to do this?

Im surprised if anyone would be "precious" about losing an alliance with CX... QF and CX don't like each other and rarely co-operate with each other.. bit like 2 fighting kids in a school room..

I suppose this means the end of those great value EK trans-tasman flights. NZ will be rubbing their hands together or sure. I know of heaps of Kiwis who fly with EK who used to do NZ. Can QF pick up all that slack?

China Airlines have rtn Business for c. $500 to AKL!!!

They haven't announced anything yet on the Tasman. I still expect them to fly across the Tasman, given the cost of parking thier aircraft particularly in Sydney.

Looks like all promo fares gone.. Crica $660 rtn during promo period, then up to $1070 afterwards..

Regarding Singapore and Hong Kong flights, the devil is in the detail...

The way I read that, means that any flights operating SYD/MEL-SIN are now "dedicated" and will terminate there, rather than continuing onto LHR or FRA.

So flights of any nature will be an increase in "dedicated capacity", because previously they all continued onto Europe. (except PER/BNE/ADL...the routes that will be dropped).

More cow dung from the masters of spin!

It's true though! As for PER/BNE/ADL if you look at the detail you will see Qantas still plans to fly to those locations, the ONLY thing given to EK are the passengers going to DXB and beyond.

Not quite... as mentioned by someone else earlier a certain percentage (known only to QF and maybe BA) of the seats on every QF1/2, QF9/10 and QF5/6 is dedicated to Asian O&D traffic. So it's not as simple as saying every QF flight into SIN (other than ADL, BNE and PER) is an increase in dedicated capacity.

Separately, I wonder what equipment they will use for the 'new' SIN services? Perhaps BKK will go to EK which would give them equivalent to 1 A330?

Dont know if this has already been posted...But will the Skywards and frequent flyer programs be merged?

Hi Callum,

They will be 'stand alone' programs, and will continue to operate the same way they are now, with the exception that you can you your FF points on the other carriers flights if you want...

All the Qantas promotional material that has been published in the past couple of days has indicated that FF points can be used and earned on both carriers, however I did hear Tim Clark from Emirates say that this was a "work in progress", and they still need to agree on equivalent status levels etc.

Singapore weighs post-Qantas options
 

It will be interesting to see how SQ respond to this, thinking outside of the actual QF/EK decision... Will SQ boost flights/capacity to try and win those QF pax that are not happy with this decision perhaps? I don't know, but I think some interesting times ahead, and not just for QF/EK...

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...#ixzz262Fdd5EH

I'm interested in the retiming of SIN and HKG flights to enhance connectivity in Asia. Is it safe to assume that SIN connections will focus around 3K and JL flight connections, and HKG around CX connections? Or will QF potentially add on tag flights to say India or other areas of SE Asia in between turnarounds similar to long haul flights into Australia doing NZ returns (and European airlines into SIN having SE Asia tag flights)?

If the latter is the case, depending on their rights, could this potentially somewhat fill the whole by their abandoned premium SE Asian carrier by flying QF metal on additional routes?