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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:48 AM
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It will be interesting to see whether or not the first batch of 787-8s (due 2011-2012?) go straight to Qantas to start replacing older 767s rather then Jetstar as initially planned who can stick to their relatively new A330s until the 787-9s arrive later on. I just hope Qantas don't have the same problems with the 787 on the SYD-MEL/BNE runs as they did with the A330s.

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You gotta remember that the first Qantas 787s will actually be the ones that Jetstar will operate. They will be cascaded to Qantas when the larger 787s arrive at Jetstar. So the 767s will most certainly be in service on domestic runs for a few more years.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 08:24 AM
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Please refrain from quoting the whole previous post in your post, it is not necessary, thank you - mod

Quite true, except most of not all of the A330's with Jetstar are not capable of having Skybed fitted without major floor strengthening. Having said that they would be great regional aircraft with a product better suited to shorter (day time) flying or indeed for some of the longer domestic routes.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 05:41 PM
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Please refrain from quoting the whole previous post in your post, it is not necessary, thank you - mod

That is already what they are doing, so the point remains, you cannot simply move the current Jetstar A330's to Qantas Int routes and fit Skybed's. If they were used on Int routes the product would have to be matched to fit the capability of the floor, which IMO isn't such a bad thing as Skybed is a waste on some of the shorter segments.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 05:45 PM
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2 x JQ A330's have normal floors so could go to QF INT.

4 x JQ A330's ahve lite floors and could easily be deployed on PER and AKL services as well as CNS flights.

So they could all easily be re sued within QF
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Old 23rd March 2009, 05:49 PM
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Ash, Please refrain from quoting the whole previous post in your post, it is not necessary, thank you - mod

That is what I was getting at, but the poster I replied to indicated they could all be converted, which cannot be easily done.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 05:55 PM
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Alternatively, the 787's could fly mainline, and the current mainline A330's could go, without restriction of routes, to Jetstar to enable them to expand at the current rate, whilst avoiding the additional cost of crewing and maintaining a second type.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:03 PM
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But it still can be done Ash, and Qantas will do what it needs to do to achieve its goals.
Qantas have already made the decision that it was too expensive to modify the floors of their first A330-200's to accept Skybed, hence why they ordered new build aircraft for this purpose and sent their older ones to Jetstar. I beleive they also need galley mods to bring them up to international spec too.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:05 PM
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Alternatively, the 787's could fly mainline, and the current mainline A330's could go, without restriction of routes, to Jetstar to enable them to expand at the current rate, whilst avoiding the additional cost of crewing and maintaining a second type.
Qantas have already made this decision too. The first 787-800's go to Jetstar, releasing the A330's back to Qantas. When the larger 787 model is ready they too will go to Jetstar and the orginal 787-800's will be cascaded to Qantas for domestic working. In the mean time A330's will operate as they currently do.
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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:15 PM
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Qantas have already made this decision too. The first 787-800's go to Jetstar, releasing the A330's back to Qantas. When the larger 787 model is ready they too will go to Jetstar and the orginal 787-800's will be cascaded to Qantas for domestic working. In the mean time A330's will operate as they currently do.
What's with the "800" thing Ash? We`all know (and what the manufacturer calls it) the actual Aircraft is called the 787-8!
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Old 23rd March 2009, 07:23 PM
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What's with the "800" thing Ash? We`all know (and what the manufacturer calls it) the actual Aircraft is called the 787-8!
To be fair to Ash, even on the JQ website they have the -800 :

http://www.jetstar.com/au/en/about-us/our-fleet.aspx
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