QF - The Next Generation

[Greg Hyde]

I expect that is why the F100 & DC-9 (sorry B717) are still operating.

There is no viable replacement.

A baby Boeing(Max) would suit fleet integration (spares, training etc.) with A319neo would only suit a JQ operation so that a whole new type added to the fleet.

[Christopher Campbell]

If Qantas converted the A380 orders and 4 options to A320neos to expand the overall 99 Qantas Group A320neo options then both the Jetstar and Qantas narrow body aircraft can be A320neos (which would have many benefits). Then this could make sense to order the A319neo for the 717 replacement.

[Ash W]

Originally Posted by Christopher Campbell

Yeah your probably right more like from 2025-2028. Yeah they could activate those last 8 orders plus those 4 options. The A380neo might be out by then. Although I believe Qantas will choose the B7779X/8X for A380 replacement aircraft. All Boeing International (787-9/10 & B777X) fleet must be good for maintence.

Having an all Boeing fleet makes little difference what so ever to maintenance. The 787 and 777 are different aircraft, different parts etc.

When it comes to crewing yes, may make a difference in that the 777 and 787 share a common rating. Though again if you have sufficient enough of each type the difference is minor.

[Ash W]

Originally Posted by Christopher Campbell

If Qantas converted the A380 orders and 4 options to A320neos to expand the overall 99 Qantas Group A320neo options then both the Jetstar and Qantas narrow body aircraft can be A320neos (which would have many benefits). Then this could make sense to order the A319neo for the 717 replacement.

As has been mentioned before the A319Neo is far too large as a 717 replacement. About 35-50 seats (depending upon configuration) too large.

Some airlines, Air France for example operate A318's to maintain commonality with their other A320 family aircraft, but again as others have pointed out this becomes a costly exercise as they are heavy aircraft flying 'regional' routes.

About the only airline owned A318's that operate effectively are the two BA units that fly LCY-SNN-JFK-LCY in an all business class layout. But of course people are paying a premium, even over LHR-JFK to fly this route. Two reasons, leaving from LCY and outbound it stops in Shannon Ireland to top up the tanks, and clear US Customs and Immigration, meaning on arrival in JFK the flight is a domestic arrival. But clearly the exception rather than rule.

[Christopher Campbell]

What would you think would be the best choice?

Bombardier CS100 or the Embraer E190/195-E2?

Again I believe converting A380 orders and options to A320neos adding to the 99 options to create a 130-140 order to replace JQ 320s and QF 737s

[Dave Dale]

The undelivered A380s might be sold to another carrier even before production since they would have been ordered at at prices much cheaper and probably easier to get rid of this way.

[Ash W]

Originally Posted by Christopher Campbell

What would you think would be the best choice?

Bombardier CS100 or the Embraer E190/195-E2?

Who knows. Maybe throw in the CRJ1000 into the mix too. Flew one yesterday actually, not too bad.

Originally Posted by Christopher Campbell

Again I believe converting A380 orders and options to A320neos adding to the 99 options to create a 130-140 order to replace JQ 320s and QF 737s

They don't need to convert A380 orders to do that and personally think we will see the A320 in Qantas colours.

[Greg Hyde]

Last year KLM Cityhopper completed the replacement their F70/100 fleet with E190's.

[MarkR]

Originally Posted by Dave Dale

The undelivered A380s might be sold to another carrier even before production since they would have been ordered at at prices much cheaper and probably easier to get rid of this way.

I am not sure that will happen give there are 150 unfilled orders yet to go into production for the A380, and competition from airlines looking to offload cheaper used aircraft like MAS