Qantas increases fares due to fuel & carbon tax

[Andrew Johnson]

extra $120 to USA from February 15 & so on ...

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1226261011768

+ flow on effects

[Greg McDonald]

Or maybe its trying to recover from the greedy blackmailing unions.....and thats all I'll say on the matter.

[D Chan]

passing the costs from the carbon tax here and the EU to passengers, just like any fuel surcharges

[Bernie P]

SO, QF are raising the ticket price effective 15 February, citing Carbon Tax, YET, the Carbon Tax starts July 1 2012... Is it just me, or can anyone else see something wrong here??

Crikey

Yesterday Gillard announced the details of the much-debated carbon price, aka the Clean Energy Future policy. And it’s not just about a carbon price (although that’s the big news and will start from July 1 next year): an independent finance board will invest $10 billion over five years into renewable and low emission energy.

HIA (pdf)

When was it announced?
Prime Minister Gillard first announced the Government‟s intentions to implement a carbon tax in February this year. A detailed package outlining the carbon tax arrangements was subsequently released by the Prime Minister on 10 July 2011, confirming the carbon tax would be implemented from 1 July 2012.

The Age

The hybrid carbon scheme announced by Ms Gillard and Greens leader Bob Brown would force industry to buy a permit for each tonne of carbon dioxide emitted from July 1 next year.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/business/ca...#ixzz1lGBomt31

[Mike W]

Originally Posted by Greg McDonald

Or maybe its trying to recover from the greedy blackmailing unions.....and thats all I'll say on the matter.

Of course these Greedy Unions are headed by Gillard masquerading as Prime Minister (no, I'm not joking or using sarcasm)

[Todd Hendry]

Originally Posted by Greg McDonald

Or maybe its trying to recover from the greedy blackmailing unions.....and thats all I'll say on the matter.

Greg, I have been very silent on this matter for a long time.
I am sick of people having a go at unions when they are not involved.
I'd love to know where this backstabbing happens. To quote a once fish and chip shop owner "please explain?".

I know this is a public forum and people have a right to free speech. Go right ahead. But please be informed.

I can tell you now that one union offered the company between 15 and 20% and was knocked back.

Greedy? I don't think so.

So please when you want to go of half-cocked please think again.

Todd.

[Jim M]

Here Here.... Well said Todd

Jim M

[Greg McDonald]

Originally Posted by Todd Hendry

Greg, I have been very silent on this matter for a long time.
I am sick of people having a go at unions when they are not involved.
I'd love to know where this backstabbing happens. To quote a once fish and chip shop owner "please explain?".

I know this is a public forum and people have a right to free speech. Go right ahead. But please be informed.

I can tell you now that one union offered the company between 15 and 20% and was knocked back.

Greedy? I don't think so.

So please when you want to go of half-cocked please think again.

Todd.

Not half-cocked at all Todd. Most airline unionists have simply dropped their bottom lip now because management was smart enough to bring the dispute to a head and they've been forced to accept a compromise. I wonder where we'd be now if management had not forced their hand...strikes or go-slows through school holidays and public holidays, overtime bans etc etc etc. And 15 - 20%...you must be kidding! I work in IT and have a number of relatives that work in the airline industry and NONE of us have EVER been offered more than 3% at best as a pay rise for many years now, if anything was offered at all! To ask for the ridiculous percentages that the union were asking and threaten (and carry out) militant industrial action when you don't get your way IS blackmail or very close to it! Of course management aren't squeaky clean in this either but as a general rule airline unions demand far more than they should in this economic climate then scream blue murder when jobs are off-shored as a result.

[Dave C]

Greg.

You are miss interpreting Todd's post. The pilots union offered the company a reduction in costs of 15-20%. Not asking for pay rises of that amount. I don't want to get into a slanging match about "aviation unions" with you, but the pilots entire industrial action consisted of wearing red ties and making PA's. They did not participate in the events you described.

Just wanted to clear up your mistake.

Cheers.

[Greg McDonald]

Thanks Dave. I did misunderstand what Todd was saying....sorry Todd. I'm fully aware that the pilot's part of the dispute was handled by them with dignity and my little dummy spit was not aimed at them at all, rather a few other groups that shall remain obvious!!