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Old 23rd August 2012, 10:45 AM
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Default Qantas posts $244m loss, cancels order for 35 B787s

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QANTAS boss Alan Joyce has cited an "uncertain global context" as the reason for the airlines' decision to surprisingly cancel a US$8.5 billion new investment in 35 new airliners.
While announcing a larger than expected loss for the carrier in Sydney this morning, Mr Joyce blamed "record" high fuel bills and transformation costs as factors influencing the airline's statutory loss after tax of $244 million.
Morningstar analysts has expected a statutory loss of $198 million after restructuring costs of between $370 million and $380 million.
"Clearly we have been through an exceptional period," Mr Joyce said.
The loss for the 12 months to June 30, 2012, compares with a net profit of $250 million in the previous year.
The result was at the upper end the airline's expectations of between $50 million and $100 million.
Mr Joyce said the cancellation of an order for 35 new Boeing 787s was due to ``lower growth requirements in this uncertain global context''.
``With lower capital requirements and substantial liquidity, we are now turning our attention toward debt reduction to strengthen the balance sheet,'' Mr Joyce said in a statement.
Fuel costs rose 18 per cent to a record $4.329 billion, Qantas said.
Qantas says it will cancel its firm order for 35 Boeing 787-9 aircraft, representing a an $US8.5 billion reduction in capital expenditure at list prices.
"Qantas continues to practice disciplined capital management and, in the context of returning Qantas International to profit, this is a prudent decision,'' said Mr Joyce.
Mr Joyce said Qantas's international operations, which were being restructured, lost about $450 million and was the only part of the airline group not to be profitable in 2011-12.
Qantas did not offer guidance, saying the operating environment and economic outlook for the first half of 2012-13 "remains challenging, volatile and dependent on a number of uncontrollable external factors''.
Qantas shocked the market with a massive earnings downgrade in June, slashing its underlying profit before tax estimates to between $50 million and $100 million for the year to June 30, 2012.
Goldman Sachs analyst Andrew Gibson said in a June note to clients that this years' earnings should benefit from the end of industrial action last year,the cutting of loss-making routes and other restructuring initiatives.
However risks remain from increased competition in the domestic market, which has been Qantas's best-performing division.
``With this volatility in global conditions, fuel and foreign exchange rates, as well as the ongoing internal transformation we have underway, it would be imprudent to offer profit guidance at this time,'' Mr Joyce said.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 11:51 AM
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Qantas says it will cancel its firm order for 35 Boeing 787-9 aircraft, representing a an $US8.5 billion reduction in capital expenditure at list prices.
Ouch! I'm guessing that Qantas don't see an improvement in conditions coming any time soon.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 12:43 PM
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And of course, the one blaming "fuel costs" and an "uncertain global context" is not going to stand up and say he did this. Those excuses are getting old.

Good one Alan Joyce.

So for the 767-300 - no wonder they just announced their refurnishment as they are going to be around for a very long time.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 12:49 PM
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Not sure about this,so I will ask the question. The 35 787-9 aircraft,is that the whole lot of that variant?
I thought the total order of 8s and 9s was about 50,but I could be wrong.

May be a few more 744s sticking around for a while too....

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Old 23rd August 2012, 01:05 PM
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The way it's being reported is a bit grey. It looks to me like they have cancelled their firm order (sic) for 35 787-9's but brought forward their purchase rights for 50 787-9s two years to 2016, resulting in a delay of the type into service by two years. Confused? Me too.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 01:15 PM
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The 50 you refer to is made up of 15 787-8's and 35 787-9's. Now, only 15 787's on firm order - for Jetstar.

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Old 23rd August 2012, 02:43 PM
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The 50 you refer to is made up of 15 787-8's and 35 787-9's. Now, only 15 787's on firm order - for Jetstar.
Thanks Dave, i surprised myself, that was the way i thought it was.

Thanks also to Kurt for posting the additional info.

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Old 23rd August 2012, 02:19 PM
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QANTAS GROUP RESTRUCTURES FLEET PLAN

SYDNEY, 23 August 2012:

The Qantas Group today announced it would restructure its Boeing 787 aircraft
delivery schedule as part of the five-year Qantas International turnaround plan.
There is no change to the Group’s plans for the B787-8 aircraft. Deliveries of 15 B787-8s to Jetstar will
continue as planned, with the first aircraft to arrive in the second half of 2013. This will enable the transfer of
Airbus A330 aircraft from Jetstar to Qantas Domestic, and the eventual retirement of Qantas’ Boeing 767 fleet.
Fifty B787-9 options and purchase rights will be retained and brought forward by almost two years, available
for delivery from 2016. However, firm commitments for 35 B787-9s will be cancelled. The restructure means
a two-year delay in the Group’s first B787-9 delivery.
The changes will result in a reduction in capital expenditure commitments that would equal US$8.5 billion at
list prices.
Qantas Group CEO Alan Joyce said the changes were consistent with the goals of the Group’s broader
strategy.
“Qantas continues to practice disciplined capital management and, in the context of returning Qantas
International to profit, this is a prudent decision,” Mr Joyce said. “The B787 is an excellent aircraft and
remains an important part of our future. However, circumstances have changed significantly since our order
several years ago. It is vital that we allocate capital carefully across all parts of the Group.
“Qantas has always maintained flexibility in its fleet plan and made changes when required. We have now
substantially completed our fleet renewal program for the Qantas Group, with 114 new aircraft delivered over
the past four years. Our average scheduled passenger fleet age is 8.3 years, the lowest since privatisation
and highly competitive by international standards.
“We have 12 A380s in service across our long-haul network and the reconfiguration of nine B747s will be
complete by late 2012. Boeing 737-800s will continue to enter the Qantas Domestic fleet as part of the
Group’s existing fleet plan, while Airbus A330s will transfer from Jetstar as B787s are delivered. And Jetstar’s
domestic and pan-Asian fleet requirements will be met over the long-term by our existing A320 order book and
the arrival of B787-8s.
“Fifty B787-9s will remain available to the Group from 2016, in line with the timeframe of the Qantas
International turnaround plan.
“We have the right fleet strategy to deliver continued customer satisfaction and position us for sustainable
growth over the long term, while enabling us to retain flexibility and manage our capital requirements
appropriately.”
Total cash inflow from the restructure will be US$433 million, with US$355 million in 2012/2013. These cash
flows will result in a net impact on Underlying PBT1 and Statutory PBT of approximately US$140 million, to be
recognised in the first half of 2012/2013.

Issued by Qantas Corporate Communication (Q5440)
Media Enquiries: 0418 210 005 / qantasmedia@qantas.com.au
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Old 23rd August 2012, 02:22 PM
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Here's the transcript from today's announcement:

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Alan Joyce
Qantas Group Full Year Financial Results
Sydney, 23 August 2012



Good morning everyone.
The Qantas Group’s full year results are in line with the guidance we provided
to the market.
We delivered an underlying profit before tax of $95 million, which represents a
statutory loss after tax of $244 million.
This result reflects three things:
�� A record fuel bill, up $645 million to $4.3 billion, 18% higher than the
previous year
�� The costs incurred by the prolonged industrial dispute last year of $194
million
�� And transformation costs of $376 million (approximately half of these
non-cash), as we continue to address our legacy cost base and turn
around our Qantas International business.
As previously disclosed, Qantas International made a loss of approximately
$450 million (based on underlying earnings before interest and tax).
However Qantas Domestic and Jetstar Domestic combined delivered a profit
of more than $600 million by the same measure.
Clearly we have been through an exceptional period.
Yet over the course of the past year we made significant progress in
advancing our overall Group strategy.
We are now coming off a period of high capital expenditure that has given us
the youngest fleet since Qantas became a public company in 1995.
At the time we had 135 aircraft.
Today we have 308 aircraft, with an average fleet age of 8.3 years.
This is a significant milestone.
A younger fleet is more efficient, attractive to customers, and internationally
competitive.
We are now positioned to stay within our target average fleet age of eight to
ten years, and to do so with lower ongoing capital requirements.
We will spend $1.9 billion for each of the next two years.
As you know we are looking forward to the arrival of 15 of the new Boeing
787-8s for Jetstar towards the second half of next calendar year.
As planned, this will enable the transfer of Airbus A330 aircraft from Jetstar to
Qantas Domestic, and the phased retirement of the Qantas Boeing 767 fleet.
These aircraft will arrive as planned.
However, given lower growth requirements in this uncertain global context,
firm commitments for 35 B787-9s will be cancelled.
Fifty B787-9 options and purchase rights will be brought forward by two years
to 2016.
Effectively this constitutes a delay of the first 787-9 delivery by two years,
from 2014 to 2016.
This fleet change will result in a reduction in our forward capital expenditure
commitments.
While the details are in-confidence, these would be valued at US$8.5 billion if
we were paying list prices.
Total cash inflow from this restructure is US$433 million, with US$355 million
in 2012/13.
This will result in a net benefit to underlying and statutory profit before tax of
approximately US$140 million, to be recognised in the first half.
At our half year results, I referred to the prospect of being free cash flow
positive.
We achieved that for the second half of the year at $206 million.
We remain focused on generating positive free cash flow for the full year
2013.
We have liquidity with $3.4 billion in cash, and $300 million available via an
undrawn facility.
We now own more of our aircraft outright.
With lower capital requirements and substantial liquidity, we are now turning
our attention towards debt reduction to strengthen the balance sheet.
Let me turn to our strategic performance.
Our domestic position is pre-eminent and our domestic earnings outperformed
the previous year.
We have the two most profitable airlines in Australia.
We lead the market in both business and leisure with 65% market share.
We hold an estimated 84% of Australia’s corporate customer base (despite
three months of industrial action), with double digit corporate travel revenue
growth on last year.
We are the major aviation provider to the resources sector through charter
and passenger services.
And over the course of the past year it was pleasing to see customers – large
customers - who have tried out the competition but returned to us.
They came back to Qantas because we are best for business, with our
superior network, frequency and product.
From October this year, we will fast-track the upgrade of our domestic Boeing
767 aircraft with fresh interiors.
I have no doubt customers will be delighted, as they are with our refurbished
747s.
Sixteen of our 22 domestic 767s will be upgraded, with the first to be
completed this October.
Our iPad/Q Streaming initiative is also being rolled out to all domestic 767s.
The total capital expenditure on these two initiatives will be approximately $20
million.
The remaining 767s are progressively being retired, and all 767s are
scheduled to retire by the end of 2015.
Our domestic and international Qantas fleet will offer more consistent high
quality product and in-flight entertainment for our customers.
It will keep getting better with initiatives such as the roll-out of Q Streaming to
customers on their own smart phones or tablets from 2013.
Our Qantas Frequent Flyer program keeps delivering, with earnings up 14%
to a record normalised earnings before interest and tax of
$231 million, membership up 9%, and redemptions up 16%.
We’ve made it easier to get and confirm upgrades, right up to departure for
domestic travellers.
Jetstar achieved record underlying earnings before interest and tax of $203
million, up 20% on the previous year.
Ancillary revenues were up 27% and unit costs were at record lows.
We are now progressively embedding the Jetstar brand and the two-airline
model in Asia.
Jetstar is already the largest low cost carrier in Asia-Pacific measured by
revenue.
We have launched Jetstar Japan five months ahead of schedule, we’ve
already flown 110,000 passengers, load factors are high at 86%, and this
afternoon we will be announcing a second base for the Japanese domestic
network.
Pending regulatory approval, Jetstar Japan will begin international services in
the first half of next year.
Planning for Jetstar Hong Kong continues with our partner China Eastern: the
AOC application has now been lodged.
Jetstar Asia is the most profitable low cost airline based in Singapore, and
Jetstar Pacific has been strengthened with new partner Vietnam Airlines.
Our biggest challenge is Qantas International, but its transformation is on
track.
Our goal is to return it to profit and ensure it remains Australia’s iconic flagship
carrier.
We have cut loss making routes.
We’ve successfully used gateways and partnerships to extend our reach and
create better options for customers, while restraining our costs.
We’ve reconfigured aircraft so that by October we will have 21 aircraft with
Marc Newson interiors, and we have established better fleet economics.
We’ve attacked our legacy cost base, aligning our workforce to new
technologies and better processes.
We are rolling out the measures that we have previously announced,
including consolidation of heavy maintenance bases, and updating
maintenance procedures, with the effect of reducing the full time equivalent of
an estimated 2800 roles.
The benefits of our transformation program have started to come through, and
when all the measures we have announced so far are fully implemented, we
anticipate ongoing savings of $300 million per year.
And there is more to come.
So let me turn to our outlook.
Clearly we confront very difficult and uncertain trading conditions in Britain,
Europe and the United States.
The fuel price is also uncertain.
The high Australian dollar will continue to create ripple effects throughout
Australia as retail, manufacturing and tourism adjusts.
But Asia will continue to offer high growth potential as the middle class grows
and travels.
With this volatility in global conditions, fuel and foreign exchange rates, as
well as the ongoing internal transformation we have underway, it would be
imprudent to offer profit guidance at this time.
But I can make a few comments about operating expectations for first half of
FY13.
Overall Group capacity is expected to increase by 3% to 4% in the first half
compared to the first half of FY12.
In the domestic environment we aim to maintain our profit-maximising 65%
market share.
Given current conditions, domestic capacity is expected to increase by around
9% to 11% in the first half, compared to the first half of FY12.
As always we have the flexibility to adjust capacity should conditions change.
With higher forward market jet fuel prices and increased flying, underlying fuel
costs for the Group (excluding carbon tax) are expected to be approximately
$2.3 billion in the first half of FY13 compared to $2.2 billion in the first half of
FY12.
Finally, I note that our circumstances are often compared to those faced by
the many legacy airlines that are going through hard times.
But we have a unique aviation model that is increasingly fit for the future.
We have a very successful two airline strategy in Australia, with a premium
and low fares model that spans most aviation customers and mitigates risk
over economic cycles.
It is widely recognised as a winning formula, and is now being extended into
the world’s fastest growing aviation markets in Asia, with low capital outlays
from us.
We have the iconic Qantas brand which continues to attract a premium.
This is reinforced by a successful frequent flyer program that continues, yearon-
year, to deliver more innovations and strengthen customer loyalty to
Qantas.
We are financially strong, profitable on an underlying basis, and have retained
an investment grade credit rating.
While we are executing an aggressive strategy for Qantas International, we
continue to invest in excellent product and service for our domestic and
international businesses.
Today we are a diverse yet integrated Group of aviation businesses.
Where we have challenges, we are addressing them.
This past year we have made a series of right but tough decisions in order to
secure a sustainable future for Australia’s Qantas and the Qantas Group.
Over coming years we will reap the benefits of these decisions.
A stronger and better Qantas, and a platform for growth for the entire Qantas
Group.
We said we would return Qantas International to profit in three years, and that
over five years our Qantas flying businesses combined would exceed their
cost of capital.
We are on track, and we stand by our commitment.
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Old 23rd August 2012, 03:42 PM
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No route cuts which is good. I have read in recent times that Frankfurt and Perth services were on the chopping block.

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