Viva Macau Suspended Operation

[Arthur T]

Macau intervenes over budget airline

28-03-2010
Macau's aviation authorities have asked Air Macau to suspend its contract with the budget carrier, Viva Macau.

They said Viva Macau could not pay its fuel bills for two flights that left on Friday, and was hurting the image of Macau.

The President of Macau's Civil Aviation Authority, Simon Chan, told reporters that Viva's business licenses were still active, and the firm could conduct commercial activities - but it could not retain its air operator's certificate and could no longer sell airplane tickets.

Source: http://www.rthk.org.hk/rthk/news/eng...0328&56&657079

Viva Macau operated some services between Macau and Sydney/Melbourne so following the close down there could be passengers stranded at the airport. Hope Australian Aviation Authorities can help resolve any issues from that and perhaps to arrange special flight by V Australia or Qantas to ferry those passengers to their destination.

[Brian Wilkes]

I'm sure CX will pick up and help out.

[Andrew P]

http://yssyforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=5036

[Tony G]

When another airline jumps in and takes on stranded passengers, do they get any financial benefit from it? Does the stranded passenger have to pay again?

[Arthur T]

Originally Posted by Tony G

When another airline jumps in and takes on stranded passengers, do they get any financial benefit from it? Does the stranded passenger have to pay again?

From Regional Practice, they MAY.

In 2008, Oasis Hong Kong collapsed and suspended operations. Passengers stranded and finally they need to pay HK$2500 (tax excl.) for a ticket on Cathay Pacific to continue their journey to London/Vancover.

So the same may happen, or they will simply receive refund if they paid via Credit Card, and you need to book it again.

Finally, the collapse of Viva Macau further illustrates budget carrier will collapse at some point and will never work. Hence I would say it'd be better for Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue, JetStar and Tiger Airways to stop adopting those stupid budget model now and change to high cost luxious model (including free 32KG luggage, 2-3 course meals, Free AVOD and a decent 50" seat width and 38" seat pitch minimum for all passengers) or else you all are risking yourself from collapsing and winding up yourself.

I believe passengers are more willing to pay $150 - 200 for a Sydney - Melbourne Single Ride and be insured from getting their flights cancelled and long delays due to their carrier is collapsing, suspending or simply operational issues that will make them stranded at the airport for days rather than those carriers offering $20 - 30 but you need to risk from all of the above adverse consequences.

[Daniel M]

Originally Posted by Arthur T

From Regional Practice, they MAY.

In 2008, Oasis Hong Kong collapsed and suspended operations. Passengers stranded and finally they need to pay HK$2500 (tax excl.) for a ticket on Cathay Pacific to continue their journey to London/Vancover.

So the same may happen, or they will simply receive refund if they paid via Credit Card, and you need to book it again.

Finally, the collapse of Viva Macau further illustrates budget carrier will collapse at some point and will never work. Hence I would say it'd be better for Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue, JetStar and Tiger Airways to stop adopting those stupid budget model now and change to high cost luxious model (including free 32KG luggage, 2-3 course meals, Free AVOD and a decent 50" seat width and 38" seat pitch minimum for all passengers) or else you all are risking yourself from collapsing and winding up yourself.

I believe passengers are more willing to pay $150 - 200 for a Sydney - Melbourne Single Ride and be insured from getting their flights cancelled and long delays due to their carrier is collapsing, suspending or simply operational issues that will make them stranded at the airport for days rather than those carriers offering $20 - 30 but you need to risk from all of the above adverse consequences.

Absolutely, what a true statement!!

I mean, airlines like Southwest, JetBlue, Ryanair, EasyJet are just doing so horribly...hang on, haven't they all collapsed already?

Great advice Arthur


And airlines like Qantas never cancel flights or have delays??? Can I have some of what you're smoking please....

[Ryan K.]

Originally Posted by Arthur T

From Regional Practice, they MAY.

In 2008, Oasis Hong Kong collapsed and suspended operations. Passengers stranded and finally they need to pay HK$2500 (tax excl.) for a ticket on Cathay Pacific to continue their journey to London/Vancover.

So the same may happen, or they will simply receive refund if they paid via Credit Card, and you need to book it again.

Finally, the collapse of Viva Macau further illustrates budget carrier will collapse at some point and will never work. Hence I would say it'd be better for Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue, JetStar and Tiger Airways to stop adopting those stupid budget model now and change to high cost luxious model (including free 32KG luggage, 2-3 course meals, Free AVOD and a decent 50" seat width and 38" seat pitch minimum for all passengers) or else you all are risking yourself from collapsing and winding up yourself.

I believe passengers are more willing to pay $150 - 200 for a Sydney - Melbourne Single Ride and be insured from getting their flights cancelled and long delays due to their carrier is collapsing, suspending or simply operational issues that will make them stranded at the airport for days rather than those carriers offering $20 - 30 but you need to risk from all of the above adverse consequences.

Awhh.....paying $150 - 200 for a SYD - MEL...having free luggage + meals + AVOD + min 38" pitch....doesn't this sound familiar???yea...OzJet did it back then......but where are they now???

[Robert S]

Originally Posted by Arthur T

Finally, the collapse of Viva Macau further illustrates budget carrier will collapse at some point and will never work. Hence I would say it'd be better for Virgin Blue, Pacific Blue, JetStar and Tiger Airways to stop adopting those stupid budget model now and change to high cost luxious model (including free 32KG luggage, 2-3 course meals, Free AVOD and a decent 50" seat width and 38" seat pitch minimum for all passengers) or else you all are risking yourself from collapsing and winding up yourself.

Okay and then

http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/2010022...kqhqgymmq5.pdf

Originally Posted by Virgin Blue

SYDNEY 24 February 2010: Virgin Blue Holdings Limited today reported a net profit after tax of $62.5 million for the six months to 31 December 2009

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