DELTA to start LA - Sydney from July 2009

[Jack B]

is UA really as ****ty as everyone says?

[Sarah C]

Originally Posted by Jack Brownbill

is UA really as ****ty as everyone says?

I travelled with them back in August and didn't think they were that bad at all. I think it depends on the route you travel to be honest.

Back on topic, great to hear the news if it is true. It will be great seeing the 772 in the DL livery.

[Montague S]

Originally Posted by Jack Brownbill

is UA really as ****ty as everyone says?

well if you're comparing them with the other carriers across the pacific then yes, they are that ****ty.

[Mick B]

I think Qantas will be much happier competing with any of the US carriers on the Pacific route instead of SQ or EK.

QF have a far superior product over UA (even before the introduction of the A380). How are the Delta 777s fitted out?

[Kelvin R]

Delta only have two classes, a standard Y product
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...-LR/1333663/M/

and a hybrid business/ first product with what appears to be the same seats as NZ/ CX etc
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Delta...-LR/1346267/M/

[Andrew P]

Originally Posted by Kelvin R

and a hybrid business/ first product with what appears to be the same seats as NZ/ CX etc

by now this product is entieley business, anyting less is just premium economy

Banjo

[Gabriel S.]

Originally Posted by Jack Brownbill

is UA really as ****ty as everyone says?

It really depends.

UA's Y-class is, and for the foreseeable future always will be, terrible. No PTVs - say no more.

Now that the new flat-bed product is being rolled out, UA's C-class is once again competitive. I had the pleasure of trying it out on a recent trans-pac, and I was very impressed; it is definitely on the level of the Skybed, if not better. The thing that always lets UA down is soft product - f/a service, food, etc. It's hit or miss in this regard.

UA F-class is quite good seat-wise, especially with the new Suite entering service. Again, the unknown is the soft product.

It'll be interesting to see how DL's entry affects the trans-pac market. If UA can keep up it's new F/C refitting at its current pace and show customers how good the new seats are, they might be okay. Otherwise, DL will certainly jeopardise UA's survival.

[Stu M]

How reliable is this 'airlineroute' website?
Cant seem to find any other info on Delta flying to Sydney, including the Delta website.

[Michael Morrison]

Originally Posted by Stu M

How reliable is this 'airlineroute' website?
Cant seem to find any other info on Delta flying to Sydney, including the Delta website.

Pretty reliable.

The flights are bookable on nwa.com and are loaded in all the main GDS systems.

In terms of success, I wonder how many Skyteam members fly this route now and what carrier they choose? I would guess therse would be the first to switch to the new service.

[Jim Liu]

Originally Posted by Stu M

How reliable is this 'airlineroute' website?
Cant seem to find any other info on Delta flying to Sydney, including the Delta website.

If they're not loaded in the GDS, I won't even bother post them on my airlineroute blog. Just like people may be puzzled why I haven't post the aircraft shuffle for DL/NW next summer (which is posted on airliners.net with never-ending discussions) because it's wasn't loaded in the GDS.