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i dont see how a geelong-frankston service would link any airports at all? what would it link avalon to? the surburban train line that frankston has? all the people will want to get back on the maglev to go back home if the first thing they see is frankston
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Moorabbin Airport?
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costly to passengers (I don't think fares will be as cheap as those of normal trains), which raises a question, will there be enough passengers who would want to catch the 'monorail' at an additional cost (question marks as to how much) to save half an hour or 40 minutes of time.
costly to maintain and operate (depends how the operator runs it e.g. frequency and how much patronage I guess) costly to construct (refer to Greg M's post) |
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It seems to me anytime someone raises a transport issue Transrapid comes up with a maglev solution which seems to derail (no pun intended) any serious discussion about adddressing the real issues. |
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I thought the Victorian Gov had said yes to a normal rail link to Tulla, about two months ago
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Sydney's Airport Link suffers from similar problem. The high cost is turning lots of people away. Personally I don't think PPP works for Public Transport. I think Melbourne's Skybus is excellent, high frequency and the price is reasonable for the service it offers. A rail link to Tulla could well become another white elephant. Michael |
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Ive been on japanese bullet trains, french TGV and eurostar's and the shanghai maglev, and i felt most comfortable and safest on the Maglev, because it wraps around the track you feel more comfortable and safer, compared to on the eurostar when it tilted to go around a corner and you feel wonky on your feet in the dining car! |
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As for stablity on the track, a few TGV's have come off the track in their 20 years of operation but the articulated/common bogie design means it stays upright even if it derails at 300km/h+. If you want a good stat about safety 23 people have been killed in maglev accidents compared to 0 in "high speed" TGV accidents. There are about 400 TGV trains operating daily, and how many maglevs? Not many. (PS by high speed I mean on dedicated high speed tracks) Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the maglev as such, except I don't think it is the answer to any of the transport problems the world faces. Traditional technology such as steel on steel is very safe and still has a lot more to offer and at a far less cost than maglev. Maglevs, like traditional monorails have a place but not as part as fully integrated transport solution. |
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Its one of those things that will just get cheaper and cheaper with time, it just depends if Melbourne can hold out without a rail link to make it cheap enough.
The railway in Shanghai rakes in enough money to pay for operating costs, but thats it, there is no way they're going to turn a profit from it. So for this railway to be a MAGLEV, i think it's going to have to be a wholly Government operated train line, and not sold off to Connex (!!) or anyone else, otherwise the cost of a fare will just go through the roof. The Governent has to be prepared to lose a large sum of money if it wants a maglev.. |
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