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Old 8th June 2015, 02:33 PM
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Default Qantas flags Boeing 777X as potential A380 replacement

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Qantas flags Boeing 777X as potential A380 replacement

Qantas has flagged the Boeing 777X as a replacement for its Airbus A380s when it's eventually time for the superjumbos to be put out to pasture.While the Flying Kangaroo's short-term focus for renewing its fleet remains on the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, which would replace older Boeing 747 jumbo jets as well as carve out new routes, the airline is also looking at life beyond the A380.

Read: Qantas pilots back the Boeing 787

Qantas is currently flying 12 superjumbos on flagship routes to London, Los Angeles and Dallas, although it's unlikely to take up the remaining eight aircraft from its original order of 20.

Instead, those dozen double-deckers will be flown until it's time to shop around for a replacement – and the tweaked A380neo version doesn't appear to be on the cards.

“When you then look at what point those sorts of aircraft will be coming up for replacement, new technology aeroplanes will be in place by then — 787-9s, A350s, the 777-8X and 9X,” Qantas International chief executive Gareth Evans told The Australian overnight at the annual International Air Transport Association meeting in Miami, Florida.

That 'replacement' timeframe is likely to stretch well into the next decade, however, with the first Qantas A380 having arrived in 2008 while the airline has notched up over 15 years flying some Boeing 747s.

Read more: Qantas still on track to buy new planes, says Joyce

The Boeing 777X is the latest addition to Boeing's best-selling 777 family, including the 777-300ER – which many in the industry believe Qantas should have ordered in place of the Airbus A380.

Boeing claims the 777X will be "the largest and most efficient twin-engine commercial jet in the world, with the lowest operating cost per seat of any commercial airplane."

First to fly is likely to be the Boeing 777-9X, although the 'X' will be dropped as the plane makes its journey from blueprint to blue skies, to become the 777-9.

The 777-9X is spec'd for 400 passengers in a three-class cabin layout with a peak range nudging past 15,185km (8,200 nautical miles).By comparison, Qantas' Airbus A380 carries 484 passengers in four classes (first, business, premium economy and economy) and a range of 15,700 km (8,500 nautical miles).

Following the 777-9X will be the 777-8X, which will trim the seat count to 350 passengers but extend the jet's maximum range past 17,220km (9,300 nautical miles).

Read: First Boeing 777X tipped for 2018

Qantas partner and Gulf powerhouse Emirates reportedly plans to upgrade its entire Boeing 777 fleet to the Boeing 777X jet from 2020. Emirates CEO Tim Clark: "The 8X is the real sweetheart" Emirates CEO Tim Clark: "The 8X is the real sweetheart"

Emirates has signed on the dotted line for 35 of the long-range Boeing 777-8X jets and a further 115 of the bigger but shorter-range 777-9X."The 8X is the real sweetheart, as it will fly to the other side of the planet with a good payload," Emirates CEO Tim Clark says.

Source: http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-flags...80-replacement
I do agree although A380 is a very attractive plane to its passengers, it is too big and from airline's point of view, by having A380, you are losing flexibility with your route frequency and thus unable to attract frequent flyers as what we need is frequency - one of the factors made Virgin Australia successful domestically.

I believe during off peak season many airlines are simply flying their A380s with fresh in and out of Australia, and should they downsize it to smaller B787-8 or A350-900 we could see much higher frequencies on key international routes (such as SIN-SYD, HKG-SYD, AKL-SYD) and frequent flyers don't need to waste time waiting for their next plane at the airport as they can turn up and go.

Whilst B777-9X might be a good plane, I think QF should also consider B777-8LX and operate SYD-LON non-stop. This will reduce their reliance on the EK alliance which in the long term could affect the market share of QF in Europe.
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Old 8th June 2015, 09:08 PM
Dave Dale Dave Dale is offline
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Gees, if only the 787 would make an appearance before talking about planes well into next decade. I'm personally hanging out for the 787 to turn up before any other planes.
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Old 9th June 2015, 08:21 AM
Kent Broadhead Kent Broadhead is offline
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Headline only slightly misleading - more accurate would be "QF flags aircraft as replacement for A380"

The A380 is right for some routes, but a twin is better overall.
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Old 9th June 2015, 12:15 PM
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Yes yes yesssssss...

Get rid of those 12 blimps now QF.
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