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Old 5th November 2009, 01:51 PM
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I am planning to Melbourne from Sydney late November planning a dinner flight out and possibly a dinner flight back.

Although it may a bit out of topic as I don't think there's A332/A333 operating at those times. But I know there are various B763s are in International Config like those who had flown to MNL in past years and they may have PTVs on their seats? (Economy Class)

So can anyone tell me when will those B763s with PTV operates during dinner time? That'd be great if I go to Melbourne without paying anything extra for luggages, on board with free newspapers, free Personal TV in front of me and then be served with a great hot dinner and a bottle of wine!

Furthermore, there are some dinner flights operated by B737-800 as well, is there any schedules/chances that we will be able to fly the new B738s on SYD <> MEL service during the day with new international config aircraft? (AVODs attached)? And how likely will those B738 flights be cancelled? Last time I went to Melbourne and I was so angry that Qantas cancelled my B738 flight (QF490) due to low partonage

But back to the topic, I actually saw a Qantas A330 operating the 7.30pm service to Sydney one time... So that would a ferry flight? And any possibility to catch a ferry flight like the B747/A330 does for the new Airbus A380?
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Old 5th November 2009, 05:48 PM
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Arthur, no 767s have PTVs in economy; they are equipped with loop PTVs featuring about 8 channels in Business. The only chance you'll have for a PTV on SYD-MEL is with an A330; international A332s and A333s occasionally operate one rotation daily SYD-MEL-SYD. As you say, though, this rotation is not during the times you need.
Travelling Y, there is really no difference between travelling on a domestic or international 767. The seats are the same, possibly .5" more pitch on international equipment, and on all CityFlyer services the soft product will be the same, regardless of equipment. This includes the newspaper, free alcohol and hot meal you mention.
The international configured 738s with Y PTVs are operated by JetConnect, which is essentially a completely different company, although fully owned by Qantas. Because of this, all JetConnect aircraft are NZ-based and their rotations are always trans-tasman; once they arrive from NZ, they return without touching the domestic network.
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Ferry flights are always conducted without passengers, so no chance you can get a seat on one. If Qantas choose to operate heavy equipment between SYD-MEL for repositioning and sell those seats, they are sold as any other service would be and can be booked through qantas.com. In the past, flights such as QF2, QF22 and QF4 have often had a tag-leg onward to MEL though currently Qantas are only operating ferry flights in the QF61** series -- not for passenger sale.

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Old 5th November 2009, 06:04 PM
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Just a side note;
last week Qantas were selling seats on a one-off 763 ferry service BNE-SYD, which, fortunately for anyone on board, left the gate with just 9 passengers on board.
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Old 5th November 2009, 07:10 PM
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Please refrain from quoting the entire previous post - mod


It will be fortunate for the passengers, not for the airline. Qantas may even have to lose $ because of the staff/food costs incurred in such an empty flight with just 9 passengers on board.
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Old 5th November 2009, 09:45 PM
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Please refrain from quoting the entire previous post - mod

That's right!

Would have been cheaper to run it empty!
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Old 5th November 2009, 09:54 PM
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Yes it would not of been good for the airline. Apparently they were having computer issues at BNE with booking people on that flight and so could only get 9.
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Old 5th November 2009, 10:46 PM
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Re Jason: True. But can't Qantas simply cancel other flights and protects its customer onto the ferry flight?
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Old 5th November 2009, 11:21 PM
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I think the problem was that Qantas put the flight up for sale on the day, and it was not available for sale prior to the departure day, and the 9 people that booked were people who booked a flight to SYD last minute. So i guess it was too late to change other passengers around as the flight had to depart, and as I said, they were having problems with the booking system
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Old 8th March 2010, 11:40 PM
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What is the current schedule of A332, A333s and B747s on Domestic routes at the moment?
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Old 9th March 2010, 12:24 AM
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As far as I can tell, the more regular rotations for the domestic (D) and international (i) A330-200s are as follows -
  • 332D#1 - (Mon-Wed) QF575/580/467 ... (picks up the MEL rotation the next day)
  • 332D#1 - (Thu-Sun) QF485/802/481/648
  • 332D#2 - (Mon & Wed) QF485/802/481/568 (and then picks up the SYD rotation)
  • 332D#2 (Tue) QF485/802/460 (and picks up the SYD rotation on Wed)
  • 332D#2 (Thu-Sun) QF575/580/583/568
  • 332D#3 (seems to be daily) QF412/581/582/497
  • 332i#1 (Mon-Fri) QF409/420 (picks up 577/566 after)
  • 332i#1 (daily) QF577/566 (from 420 on Mon-Fri)
  • 332i#2 (Tue) QF447/481/568 (this is a slightly funky one... it goes off from SYD to MEL to pick up the evening PER service, and then comes back to SYD on the red-eye from PER)
  • 333i (Fri) QF447/460

However, I have seen 332s sliding to a different rotation in PER, especially between QF481>QF568, and QF583>QF648, so it isn't quite so fixed that way (not so much on the daytime flights, because of the schedules).

The international 332s also appear on random other SYDMEL flights, especially so on QF435/444, and QF447/460 usually.

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