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Old 7th November 2013, 11:56 PM
Scott L. Scott L. is offline
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Scheduled services should be between the curfew hours but dispensation should always be provided for operational reasons. A fair use / breach policy should apply so its not abused.
Its embarrassing that in Sydney, as remote as we are, these rules persist.
If you live in the city - expect noise.
If you want peace and quiet, move away from the city.
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Old 8th November 2013, 11:46 AM
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. A fair use / breach policy should apply so its not abused.
The issue of course is how do you police possible abuse?
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Old 8th November 2013, 12:19 PM
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Yay Scott !

In the early days of the expansion of the airport, I am sure many of the residents were caught in a very tight spot - unexpectedly, noise was increasing and their formerly quiet locale had been overrun (or should I say flown) by previously unthinkable planes (size and number).

Some years on, it is time to accept that the precincts close to an existing transport hub will come with considerable noise.

For all those that have purchased in the proximity of the airport in the last 25 years, get real.

Time for the curfew to be seriously reviewed and pruned - if we want to be a global city, we need to be globally aligned and readily accessible.

It would be interesting to see how schedules would change if YSSY became less constrained !
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Old 8th November 2013, 12:32 PM
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Or Build Badgerys Creek.
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Old 8th November 2013, 12:44 PM
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Badgerys creek now has houses around it too, so same issue really.
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Old 8th November 2013, 12:44 PM
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Why build Badgerys Ck. and subject a whole new area to noise, just remove the curfew at Sydney, and develop the current Airport to its full potential.

There is a lot more development to be done at YSSY before it becomes redundant.
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Old 8th November 2013, 01:18 PM
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Perhaps, but why just continue to build on something that is 95% full now, when you could build a brand new facility that will do for a longer period of time.

Time to make a move on Badgery's Creek. Just need a government who's got the ***** to do it. Think about the country's infrastructure, rather than just the next election.

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Old 8th November 2013, 03:39 PM
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Yay Mick.

All for the infrastructure - need to get a "long term set" happening with the near-sghted pollies !
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Old 8th November 2013, 04:13 PM
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Perhaps, but why just continue to build on something that is 95% full now, when you could build a brand new facility that will do for a longer period of time.
Mick
Where do you get the 95% full statistic from ?

http://www.sydneyairport.com.au/corp..._the_facts.pdf

According to the fact sheet above Sydney Airport can cope with passenger demand until 2045 without any changes to Runways, Curfew or Movement Caps.

Now imagine how much more useful life YSSY could have if some more development work and the removal of the curfew were to take place.

For example:
1. Fill in the area between the two North/South runways out in the bay and place the freight terminal and Aircraft Maintenance Hangars out there with road access from Foreshore Drive.
2. Extend 16L/34R to cater for larger aircraft movements.
3. Remove the QANTAS hangars and extend the current domestic terminal into that area.
4. Move ahead with the proposal to run both Domestic and International Operations from both sides of the airport i.e Oneworld carriers on one side and Star Alliance etc on the other.
5. Build a world class train link underground for easy passenger transfers between terminals, and include a cargo link to transfer baggage and cargo easily between terminals instead of using carts above ground.

As you can see, the current airport has so much more potential and most of all it is in the best location where people want to fly to, politics is holding YSSY back as well. From a cost point of view, the development of YSSY is much more beneficial to the countries economy than building a white elephant airport out in the western suburbs when some of the money that would be invested would be much better spent on building better roads to the current airport and CBD.
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Old 8th November 2013, 04:51 PM
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it is in the best location where people want to fly to
Agree with the bulk of what you wrote except for this. What I gather you meant is it is the best location wherethe bulk of inbound passengers want to fly to.

It is not very convenient however for the bulk of passengers that want to use it outbound. It is convenient for those who live in the city, eastern suburbs and inner west and south. The bulk of the people in Sydney live much further out where getting to the airport is a PIA. Try getting to the airport from Parramatta for example, which is the population centre of Sydney.
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