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Old 5th December 2010, 10:54 AM
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It's not all about you Philip...
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Old 5th December 2010, 11:05 AM
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I want a direct flight when I travel thanks very much!
fantastic, get on QF 107, its a 744.
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Old 5th December 2010, 01:33 PM
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Thumbs down Missed the point

Qantas needs to offer what passengers want. If Rolls Royce engines can't enable that to happen, what's the good of them?
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Old 5th December 2010, 01:39 PM
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Exclamation Still missing the point

All I'm saying is that Qantas should not be restricted in what it offers the market because of Rolls Royce's failures. I understand the alternatives to direct flights but that doesn't mean it's OK for Qantas to be restricted to those options because the engines in its A380s can't handle the MTOW out of LAX.
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Old 5th December 2010, 02:00 PM
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Qantas needs to offer what passengers want. If Rolls Royce engines can't enable that to happen, what's the good of them?
Qantas may need to get together and straighten its stories out:

Media Release 23 November:

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This is an operational decision by Qantas and pilots still have access to maximum certified thrust if they require it during flight. It is not a manufacturer’s directive.
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But the new rules imposed by Rolls-Royce since one of its Trent 900 engines exploded on a Qantas A380 near Singapore last month mean that the world's biggest passenger jet is not a commercial proposition on the airline's Australia-US route.
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Old 5th December 2010, 02:46 PM
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Qantas needs to offer what passengers want. If Rolls Royce engines can't enable that to happen, what's the good of them?
and if they want non-stop, then there are a few options...if stopping at AKL means the fleet is making them money, then as a shareholder I would have thought that this would be a good thing?!
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Old 5th December 2010, 02:47 PM
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Thumbs down RR had second thoughts

Qantas' 23 November Media Release was issued before Rolls Royce issued its manufacturer's directive not to use maximum (72,000 lb) thrust on its Trent 972-84 model engines (being those fitted to Airbus A380-842 aircraft).
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Old 5th December 2010, 03:30 PM
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Qantas' 23 November Media Release was issued before Rolls Royce issued its manufacturer's directive not to use maximum (72,000 lb) thrust on its Trent 972-84 model engines (being those fitted to Airbus A380-842 aircraft).
When was this directive by Rolls Royce made? Is it published anywhere?
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Old 5th December 2010, 04:18 PM
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I believe this is one HUGE mess. That is going to cost zillions. Sadly.

Have mentioned before I totally enjoyed my experience on the A380, how on earth QF will be compensated enough by RR for this total loss intrigues me.

I am interested in this fairly new (Friday) development from the report indicating a structural floor in the manufacturing design.

Whilst all this stuff can be done, I believe no worries.

QF will have A380s sitting on the ground that cant be used for some time. Let alone Nancy Bird even longer....

I expect and hope the new three impending deliveries will have had these design changes that will add to the QF opportunity to fly A380's east coast AUS to west coast USA unimpeded


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Old 5th December 2010, 09:14 PM
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I wonder if it's an option for Qantas to renegotiate the type of engine on their aircraft.
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