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Old 4th July 2011, 05:58 PM
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I'm not a pilot but I've been around for a while. I can only think of three reasons for descent below MSA

1 Pig ignorance
2 "Don't care" attitude
3 Faulty altimeter

Somehow I doubt it was number 3.
Though in an Airbus you can also pull the "Altitude" selector as well.
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Old 4th July 2011, 07:45 PM
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So what you're saying, Scott, is essentially "we'll tell you we think that operation is unsafe. If you still go flying with them, and you crash, don't say we never warned you".
Hey Adam,

Not quite. I am keen to explore the concept of a heavily regulated environment having more transparency and secondly, a scheme that sets out to expose non compliance, better than it is done today. I am of the opinion the current scheme is inadequate of informing and protecting the consumer.

The show cause notice was advertised in the media around March. The show cause notice gave insight into the possibility of a suspension. No reasons are offered.

I just think the regulators effort falls short in protecting the industry -holistically.
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Old 6th July 2011, 06:23 AM
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Just noticed that Tiger have now suspended tickets sales for dates beyond 09/07/11.
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Old 6th July 2011, 09:22 AM
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According to what I heard over the wireless this morning, ticket sales have been suspended "pending an announcment at midday tomorrow" , which is pretty much the same line they've currently got on their site.

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Following the 5-day suspension (until 9 Jul 2011) of Tiger Airways Australia's domestic services by CASA, flights have been temporarily removed from sale.

Discussions with CASA regarding a resumption of services are ongoing and constructive.

A further update regarding progress on resumption of services will be made by 12:00 hrs AEST, 7 Jul 2011.
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Old 6th July 2011, 11:31 AM
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Interesting to read that the control tower at Avalon was unstaffed when the Tiger flight descended too low.
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Old 6th July 2011, 12:46 PM
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They had to suspend ticket sales otherwise the ACCC were going to sue them for $200 million

Pretty sure YMAV is not staffed after 10pm where there is a Jetstar and Tiger arrival
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Old 6th July 2011, 01:49 PM
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Having the tower open or closed is not an issue, at Virgin Australia we operate into many airports when the tower is closed, plus we operate into regional airports without towers.
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Old 6th July 2011, 08:15 PM
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Possible grounding until the 1st of August......
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Old 6th July 2011, 08:30 PM
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If they are grounded for that long, I will make a prediction that they will pack up and go home to singapore.
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Old 6th July 2011, 08:44 PM
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Confirmed - grounded until August 1.
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