MH370 - Missing

[Grahame Hutchison]

Last known position of MH370 based on satellite data according to Malaysian authorities. Let's
hope it was on the northern red line and they have landed safely somewhere. Based on the northern
arc, it's a bit out there, but could this turn out to be linked to the current crisis over Ukraine and
the Crimea, some sort of hostage leverage to force Russia's hand, or a 911 style attack on Moscow ?

[Michael Cleary]

And based on the Southern Arc, about the only place it could have landed would be Diego Garcia - but the Americans would have said so - wouldn't they?

[Scott S]

The press conference this afternoon only indicated that Malaysia Airlines will have nothing to do with this anymore, so does the government. They don't have anything to keep hiding and things progressed much quicker than they expected, especially the Ping to the satellite. It's the time for the main actors on the stage.

This is a joint operation of US and China, there were Jammer involved. The operation is about possible small nuclear device on board, of course have been offloaded before the flight took off. The nuclear thing is targeting Beijing, part of the plan of the coup to destablise the current government.

The aircraft did landed on Diego Garcia, unclear if it is still there or not.

The Chinese passengers has already back in China in somewhere, highly likely on Hainan Island.

[Michael Cleary]

Whacky theory. But, as things stand, anything is possible.

[Bob C]

Hi Scott C

Could you please edit your post, and perhaps send it again in a more readable form.

Cheers

Bob C

[Philip Argy]

I was not aware of the engine data satellite comms/pinging independent of ACARS and transponder - can anyone on here who knows what they're talking about explain how this works, assuming the basic proposition is accurate?

[Montague S]

Originally Posted by Grahame Hutchison

Last known position of MH370 based on satellite data according to Malaysian authorities. Let's
hope it was on the northern red line and they have landed safely somewhere. Based on the northern
arc, it's a bit out there, but could this turn out to be linked to the current crisis over Ukraine and
the Crimea, some sort of hostage leverage to force Russia's hand, or a 911 style attack on Moscow ?

if the red line is accurate that would put the a/c very close to ZWWW at some stage..could it seriously fly over India & China without detection?

[Grahame Hutchison]

Philip, From what I understand, the engine performance monitoring is transmitted via ACARS, using radio or satellite communications. The data can also be stored and transmitted when coms are available - I have seen several examples where complete tracks from LAX to SYD have been downloaded via ACARS when the aircraft is 250nm out of Sydney. ACARS engine status reporting is done independent of the Tech Crew, and ACARS is not related to the Transponder at all. The CDU can be used by the pilots to send/receive other information via ACARS, like weather, gate numbers requests etc. Other systems can interface to ACARS to send messages.

I am not sure if the complete ACARS system can be shutdown by the pilots (maybe someone else can answer that one).

Some ACARS examples from this morning ...

ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: .VH-OQC Operational Coms
Message label: 87 Block id: 1 Msg. no: U58A
Flight id: QF0012
Message content:-
TO OPERATIONS
DELAY. LAST DOOR CLOSED ON SCHEDULE HOWEVER JUST AFTER DOOR CLOSURE
ECAM FOR SURV-WX RADAR AND TAWS. SPOKE WITH ENGINEER AND COMPLETED
A RESET. PUSHED BACK AT 0602
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 06:30]

ACARS mode: S Aircraft reg: .CC-CQF System Status
Message label: H1 Block id: 0 Msg. no: C18A
Flight id: LA0801
Message content:-
#CFB.1/WRN/WN1403152001 732102506MAINTENANCE STATUS ECU3 CHAN A
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 07:00]

ACARS mode: S Aircraft reg: .CC-CQF
Message label: H1 Block id: 1 Msg. no: C19A
Flight id: LA0801
Message content:-
#CFB.1/WRN/WN1403152001 732103006MAINTENANCE STATUS ECU3 CHAN B
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 07:00]

ACARS mode: S Aircraft reg: .VH-OJU Inbound With PAX Details
Message label: 86 Block id: 4 Msg. no: M05A
Flight id: QF0108
Message content:-
ARI
ETAB 2125YSSY
WHLCHR 02 / MED
ASST MINORS PAX
SICK N
SI NO TO AQIS.
h M O $O
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 07:45]

ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: .VH-OJU AMDAR Weather Report - Lat,Long,Alt,Turbulence etc
Message label: H1 Block id: 5 Msg. no: D26A
Flight id: QF0108
Message content:-
#2TBKLAXYSSY
AMDAR 1521
D3330S15305E2101F340M507272041008
D3337S15251E2103F301M401281029009
D3343S15239E2104F266M308298025010
D3349S15229E2106F236M235303035009
D3354S15219E2108F208M168299034007
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 08:08]

ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: .VH-OGR Engine Report
Message label: H1 Block id: Msg. no: D004
Flight id: QF0091
Message content:-
#2UBBLD-TKO
VH-OGR QFA0091
2207 15MAR14 SYD- NOU- CL 7 VER026
LEFT ENG RIGHT ENG
======== =========
CL NO CL NO HPSOV POS
NC NO NC NO PRV POS
98 1
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 09:11]
ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: .VH-OGR
Message label: H1 Block id: Msg. no: D005
Flight id: QF0091
Message content:-
#2UB00 PRV EXIT PRESS
NC NO NC NO FAV POS
H H TEMP RANGE FLG
181 196 FATS TEMP
NC NO NC NO PRSOV POS
0 0 ISO VALV
-------------------------------------[16/03/2014 09:11]

[Grahame Hutchison]

From NEWS.COM.AU

The latest developments in the investigation come as British media are speculating the plane’s disappearance could also be linked to al-Qaeda.
A plot created by Malaysian Islamists to hijack the Malaysia Airlines plane in a 9/11-style attack is being investigated, The UK’s Daily Telegraph reports.

It comes after al-Qaeda informant Saajid Badat, a British-born Muslim from Gloucester, told a court that a group of Malaysian men had been planning to take control of a plane, using a bomb hidden in a shoe to blow open the cockpit door.

Security experts said his evidence was “credible”.

Badat said that he had met the Malaysian jihadists – one of whom was a pilot – in Afghanistan and given them a shoe bomb to use to take control of an aircraft.
In giving evidence at the trial in New York of Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, Osama bin Laden’s son-in-law, Badat said: “I gave one of my shoes to the Malaysians. I think it was to access the cockpit.”

Badat, who spoke via video link, said the Malaysian plot was being masterminded by Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was behind the 9/11 attack in the US in 2001.

[Scott L.]

I wonder what Uncle Sam knows, or what they saw and maybe what they can currently see and what they can hear?