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Old 12th July 2013, 09:33 PM
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I am a very big believer in automation. I love it. Use it to its full potential nearly every day at work.

However.... I also know when automation is simply not suitable. One of the very big keys to effective automation management, is to be 5 steps ahead of the computers at all times. The old saying, "What's it doing? What's it going to do? What have I told it to do?". If you're trying to play catchup and its all going pear shaped, then either one of two things have to happen. Either you put yourself in a position where you can slow it all down and catch up again, or you simply get rid of it all and go back to basics.

Looking at a few of the comments around the aviation world so far, it appears the crew forgot the simple and most basic of things - Fly the aircraft.

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Old 13th July 2013, 09:00 AM
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Poor fact checking by the media....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=563_1373664708

Someone Pranked San Francisco TV Station Into Reporting Fabricated Names Of Asiana Pilots

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Old 13th July 2013, 11:01 AM
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"Don't ever let an airplane take you someplace where your brain hasn't arrived at, at least a couple of minutes earlier", may have some relevance here.
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Old 13th July 2013, 01:15 PM
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A third passenger has passed away from her injuries.
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Old 13th July 2013, 03:00 PM
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Poor fact checking by the media....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=563_1373664708
Well this is ridiculous. How that could have passed through to broadcasting is beyond embarrassing.

And the fact they quoted the NTSB verified the names...

I'm sure they did...
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Old 13th July 2013, 04:28 PM
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Well this is ridiculous. How that could have passed through to broadcasting is beyond embarrassing.

And the fact they quoted the NTSB verified the names...

I'm sure they did...
Well, this is what the NTSB had to say (see http://www.ntsb.gov/news/2013/130712.html)

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NTSB statement on erroneous confirmation of crew names
July 12

The National Transportation Safety Board apologizes for inaccurate and offensive names that were mistakenly confirmed as those of the pilots of Asiana flight 214, which crashed at San Francisco International Airport on July 6.

Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on the aircraft.
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Old 13th July 2013, 05:15 PM
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Wow - that is amazing... I would not have thought...
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Old 15th July 2013, 12:20 PM
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A comment from someone on LinkedIn today...

"The crew was so far behind that airplane that, nearly a week after the crash, they're not injured yet."
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Old 17th July 2013, 01:38 PM
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I love the quote above on Linkedin....
Saw this today in FlightGlobal...Brings up some interesting questions, especially about auto throttles...

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...2013-0716-GLOB
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Old 17th July 2013, 08:35 PM
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Wonder what the results would have been if it had been a 787 in the same position?
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