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Old 26th May 2009, 01:59 PM
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I'm sorry, but I just can't see where there are any claims that the airline carried Freight ahead of Pax Bags.

Pax bags do take priority over freight, don't worry about that.

Given the weather conditions on Saturday morning in Sydney, they would have needed to carry a lot of fuel, and I'm not surprised that if a full load were booked they needed to leave some baggage behind.

The bags would have been on the next flight, and would have been couriered to the people's homes upon arrival.

It isn't like Qantas are the only airline to ever have left bags behind.
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Old 26th May 2009, 02:15 PM
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Owen is there a reason the freight couldn't wait until the next flight and the pax bags go with them?
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Old 26th May 2009, 03:00 PM
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What freight?

My point is that I can't see where there are any reliable claims that freight was carried on this service when bags weren't.
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Old 26th May 2009, 03:26 PM
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Unfortunately the story says there was baggage and cargo on the flight, but only referred to baggage being left behind. I presume this was because most people either don't know or aren't aware if their cargo is on a particular flight, hence there's no need to mention it.

Maybe the reporter didn't ask the right questions to satisfy all curiosities?
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Old 26th May 2009, 03:35 PM
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I think crucifying an airline based on the fact that a news.com.au article stated "baggage and cargo" being on board, and only said "baggage" when mentioning what was left behind is a little silly.

The media are "loose" with their language at the best of times, so to make assumptions based on that writing is perhaps being a bit unrealistic.
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Old 26th May 2009, 03:47 PM
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Well how about we phrase it this way.....

Does a 737-800 with a full load of pax and fuel and NO freight go overweight?
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Old 26th May 2009, 04:46 PM
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Owen is there a reason the freight couldn't wait until the next flight and the pax bags go with them?
It is the freight that allows the airline to offer the cheap tickets. Also coming from the top end a lot of it would be perishiable items, so maybe not viable to leave it.

This seems to be one of those cases where they had to do what they had to do for operational reasons. Now if it happened every day I could see an issue, but a one off for what ever valid reason, I am afraid is just the normal business of ANY airlines.
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Old 26th May 2009, 04:58 PM
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Nick, the short answer is in certain circumstances, yes. Just like a 747 or a 767 can.

I'll elaborate more later.
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Old 26th May 2009, 04:58 PM
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Well how about we phrase it this way.....

Does a 737-800 with a full load of pax and fuel and NO freight go overweight?
No it wouldnt.
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Old 26th May 2009, 05:02 PM
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It is the freight that allows the airline to offer the cheap tickets.
If airlines are relying on freight to lower their fares then they are going about it the wrong way. Freight for pax airlines is a bonus, ultimately they are a pax airline and should be running the airline to make profit through passenger revenue.


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Also coming from the top end a lot of it would be perishiable items, so maybe not viable to leave it.
Hmmm possible but I dont think so as QF's B738's are fitted with both forward and rear 'magic carpet' and seafood cannot be loaded onto the 'magic carpet'.
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