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Old 25th March 2010, 02:31 PM
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Default Sydney now 28th Busiest in world

Sydney is back in the top 30 busiest airports in the world:

1 ATLANTA GA, US (ATL) 88 032 086 (2.2)
2 LONDON, GB (LHR) 66 037 578 (1.5)
3 BEIJING, CN (PEK) 65 329 851 +16.8
4 CHICAGO IL, US (ORD) 64 397 891 (8.8)
5 TOKYO, JP (HND) 61 903 656 (7.2)
6 PARIS, FR (CDG) 57 884 954 (4.9)
7 LOS ANGELES CA, US (LAX) 56 518 605 (5.5)
8 DALLAS/FORT WORTH TX, US (DFW) 56 030 457 (1.9)
9 FRANKFURT, DE (FRA) 50 932 840 (4.7)
10 DENVER CO, US (DEN) 50 167 485 (2.1)
11 MADRID, ES (MAD) 48 248 890 (5.1)
12 NEW YORK NY, US (JFK) 45 912 430 (3.9)
13 HONG KONG, HK (HKG) 45 560 888 (4.8)
14 AMSTERDAM, NL (AMS) 43 569 553 (8.1)
15 DUBAI, AE (DXB) 40 901 752 +9.2
16 BANGKOK, TH (BKK) 40 500 269 +4.9
17 LAS VEGAS NV, US (LAS) 40 460 310 (8.2)
18 HOUSTON TX, US (IAH) 39 993 236 (4.1)
19 PHOENIX AZ, US (PHX) 37 824 982 (5.2)
20 SAN FRANCISCO CA, US (SFO) 37 366 287 +0.2
21 SINGAPORE, SG (SIN) 37 203 978 (1.3)
22 JAKARTA, ID (CGK) 37 143 719 +13.3
23 GUANGZHOU, CN (CAN) 37 048 712 +10.8
24 CHARLOTTE NC, US (CLT) 34 577 808 (0.5)
25 MIAMI FL, US (MIA) 33 886 025 (0.5)
26 ORLANDO FL, US (MCO) 33 731 431 (5.4)
27 ROME, IT (FCO) 33 723 213 (4.0)
28 SYDNEY, AU (SYD) 33 444 687 +0.4
29 NEWARK NJ, US (EWR) 33 400 626 (5.5)
30 MUNICH, DE (MUC) 32 681 067 (5.4)

http://www.airports.org/cda/aci_comm...18-222_666_2__

Sydney airport only had a small increase 0.4% but many world airports have dropped down the list due to the GFC eg Tokyo NRT, Toronto, London Gatwick and Shanghai not in the top 30 now. Look at the decine of some major airports Chicargo down -8.8% and Las Vegas down -8.2%. But look at Beijing PEK growth of +16.5%. It will soon be NO.1 easily overtake Heathrow next year then Atlanta a few years later.
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Old 25th March 2010, 06:33 PM
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Sydney won't get much higher when they are capped with the number of movements and have a curfew. I am surprised Singapore is so low.
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Old 28th March 2010, 12:02 PM
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They already have a movement cap of 80 movements per hour and the 11pm t0 6am curfew. Gatwick has a hourly cap but its pushing hard to get an increase Sydney might have to do the same one day with better ATC procedures in place they could easily handle 100 per hour. Also regarding those stats above when the economies of Japan, UK and US improve in the year ahead we can expect to see there major airports recover there lost ground and I expect SYD will be pushed out of the top 30 again.
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Old 28th March 2010, 12:08 PM
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with better ATC procedures in place they could easily handle 100 per hour.
Is there something wrong with the current ATC procedures? I'm keen to hear your reasoning behind this statement.
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Old 28th March 2010, 04:21 PM
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No nothing wrong with the current ATC procedures. Be good to get the cap raised a bit is all I ment, so Sydney can maintain its position in the rankings.
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Old 28th March 2010, 06:02 PM
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The cap getting raised while Albanese is either in government or Transport Minister would be absolutely and utterly political suicide.

Although there's currently a cap and a curfew, there are still periods of the day when you could quite possibly bowl an over of cricket without getting run over by aircraft on the main runway. And no, I haven't tried it.
My point is, the airport's not running at capacity now, so there's room for even higher passenger numbers and increased carriers.
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Old 28th March 2010, 06:37 PM
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And on the news today the East-West runway will be officially 're-opened' this week. Those suburbs that have been 'let off' for the last 18 months are already making noises. Share it (the noise) around is Airservices Australia's comment.
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Old 28th March 2010, 06:40 PM
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WELL IF THIS HAPPENS THEN THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF SPACE

Sydney Airport flags huge rise for plane berths

* Steve Creedy, Aviation writer
* From: The Australian
* March 26, 2010 12:00AM


ALREADY under the spotlight for exorbitant car-parking fees, Sydney Airport has incensed regional carriers and general aviation operators by proposing to raise aircraft-parking fees by more than 5000 per cent.

The airport has told shocked operators using the general aviation (GA) apron that they face paying the same parking charges that big carriers pay for jets such as the A380.

Regional Express estimates that the changes will cost it $11.3 million annually and warns it could send its Pel Air subsidiary, which operates Westwind air ambulances from Sydney, out of business.

Rex managing director Jim Davis said the airport wanted to change the parking charges from $60 a day to $35 every 15 minutes, or $3360 for 24 hours -- an increase of 5600 per cent.

He said the charges would still be crippling even if the airport halved them.

"We park one of our Metros and yet it's the same charge -- we pay just as much as an A380," Mr Davies said.


"And we obviously don't occupy the space and we don't need the incredibly strong tarmac, either."

Mr Davis said Rex would struggle to absorb the increase, which Sydney wants to implement from July 1, and he believed it contradicted the spirit of legislation granting access to Sydney for regional airlines.

He said the new regime would force smaller operators at the airport out of business.

"They are basically forcing us out with such huge costs," he said.

"So we don't believe it is appropriate, and we will obviously be looking at it with legal advice."

The Regional Aviation Association of Australia said the proposal would hurt regional people and would cost jobs if it became a reality and caused operators to close their doors or substantially lift prices to customers.

It called on the recently brought forward Productivity Commission review to look closely at the airport's "brutal monopolistic pricing behaviour".

RAAA chief executive Paul Tyrrell said the increase was outrageous and would hit regional carriers, freighters, charters and corporate flights.

He said regional airline and general aviation operators relied on access to Sydney Airport to provide vital passenger, freight and aeromedical services to regional Australia.

If it was not an ambit claim, which was a bad way of doing business, the rise looked like an attempt to drive out some operators and this would be an access issue under the Trade Practices Act.

"A 6000 per cent increase just whacked on overnight will knock some operators out," Mr Tyrrell said. "There's no argument about negotiating a commercial increase -- people do that every year -- with their contracts. But just to whack people with 6000 per cent and then just say take it or leave it seems like monopoly behaviour."

Sydney Airport said last night it was consulting with private jet, helicopter and other general aviation users about the increases, which would be the first since 2001, and discussions had not been finalised.

It said most of Rex's operations used parking at T2, where pricing was regulated.

"These operations are not impacted by the proposed fee increases that are under discussion at the moment," it said. "The only way that Rex would possibly be impacted is if they wanted to use the GA apron in addition to the parking they have at T2."

The regional airline protest is the latest in a run of bad publicity for the airport. A recent Australian Competition & Consumer Commission report attacked Sydney Airport's performance as the nation's premier gateway, labelling it Australia's worst major airport for the fourth consecutive year.
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Old 28th March 2010, 07:18 PM
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And on the news today the East-West runway will be officially 're-opened' this week. Those suburbs that have been 'let off' for the last 18 months are already making noises. Share it (the noise) around is Airservices Australia's comment.
The usual hysteria - whenever they change the flight paths, yes some get more noise, but others get less. You can't please everyone.

Send the noise out to my house, I will welcome it
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Old 28th March 2010, 07:34 PM
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Sydney Airport said last night it was consulting with private jet, helicopter and other general aviation users about the increases, which would be the first since 2001, and discussions had not been finalised.
Oh well more bizjets to park at MEL
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