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Old 26th September 2008, 04:46 PM
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Not really, hence why the thing is still flying!
Haven't they ordered some Italian or Spanish aircraft as their replacement?
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Old 26th September 2008, 05:29 PM
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Haven't they ordered some Italian or Spanish aircraft as their replacement?
No replacement yet. Project Air 8000 Phase 1 has been held over until after the White Paper has been finalised. As part of the White Paper process, Defence is undertaking a whole Airlift review, but most observers expect an order for 12-18 Alenia C-27Js to be placed, along with some more Chinooks.
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Old 26th September 2008, 06:41 PM
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I am guess that would make it more years than any other operational military aircraft.

Is there any replacement?
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Old 26th September 2008, 06:42 PM
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Hi Andrew

That's what I've read (in "Australian Aviation" ?)

But the withdrawal of the 'bou would still leave a capability gap for several years until any new equipment arrives.
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Old 26th September 2008, 06:42 PM
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Speaking of Caribous, one was in the news recently "



Does anyone know if the aircraft has been recovered yet ?

Anyone know the RAAF serial number.
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Old 26th September 2008, 06:49 PM
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That's what I've read (in "Australian Aviation" ?)
Must be right then!

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But the withdrawal of the 'bou would still leave a capability gap for several years until any new equipment arrives.
Yep, but it's not like the Caribou is able to operate in a warzone. It has no secure comms, no EW or self protection capabilities, and runs on AvGas!

But if another tsunami or cyclone were to hit a near neighbour, it would certainly be missed.
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Old 26th September 2008, 11:24 PM
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Haven't they ordered some Italian or Spanish aircraft as their replacement?
From what i have heard the choices are between the Spanish EADS CASA C-295 airlifter and Italian Alenia C-27J Spartan. As mentioned it will been known with Project 8000. The interim A/C to be used are king air Army A/C.
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Old 27th September 2008, 08:41 AM
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I'm not sure but I think that the KC-135 and B-52 are of late 1950's vintage in the USAF

I'm sure someone can enlighten us on this point

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Old 27th September 2008, 09:30 AM
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From what i have heard the choices are between the Spanish EADS CASA C-295 airlifter and Italian Alenia C-27J Spartan. As mentioned it will been known with Project 8000. The interim A/C to be used are king air Army A/C.
C-295 is more or less out of it. EADS aren't even seriously bidding it any more. It's C-27J - the only question is how many, and whether they're ordered through the US JCA office via an FMS deal, or directly through Alenia.
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Old 27th September 2008, 09:45 AM
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The C-27J seems to have quite a good usable payload, but how does it stack up against the Caribou for short field performance?
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