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7th April 2009, 07:44 PM
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Stephen, when you can show me how this verdict and the sentence has made Indonesian aviation safer then I'll entertain the rest of your posts.
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7th April 2009, 08:26 PM
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I don't get this.
There are some who feel this accident was caused by the system and trying and jailing the pilot is not conducive to open disclosure of future incidents. I agree the Indonesian system is flawed and needs a culture change to bring it into line with other countries and yes that culture change needs to start at the very top. The system did not ignore all those warnings, did not land an aircraft at extremely high speed . The pilot did. What action do those against trying the pilot suggest should be taken against someone who acts in such a negligent manner, comfort him and say "it's OK it wasn't your fault!"
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7th April 2009, 08:46 PM
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I've tried to resist posting in this topic on past experiences...but i have to.
The Indonesian system is deeply, deeply, deeply flawed. Make no mistake that i believe the contrary. However... To those who believe the pilot should not be imprisoned on the premise it doesn't improve the situation..how do you know it doesn't? How do you know that other pilots will be more careful in the future? And if one of your family members (or someone as close to you) was killed in this incident, would you not be after the most severe gaol sentence you could get? Or would you still be caring about the overall picture? Let me tell you, it would be the former.
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7th April 2009, 10:08 PM
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So I'll ask for the FOURTH time, exactly how are the responsibiities of car drivers and pilots different? Give us an answer that can help us understand your viewpoint. Please. Are you even a pilot? Is there any justification for your viewpoint?
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7th April 2009, 10:32 PM
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Surley the pilot is not the only one with their actions being scrutinised here. I have not read into any of this discussion, but from what I can gather the media is pointing the finger squarely at the pilot, and so is anyone who pays attention to that.
In my line of work, If i made a terrible mistake that jeopardised the lives of passengers, I would be held accountable. However, an investigation would also be carried out into how I was trained, the working conditions and any other factors that affect my ability to work. If any problems were found there, then action would be taken against those parties as well. I do not think anyone here is questioning that the pilot should not be punished, and I believe a gaol term is a fair punishment. His command decisions that day can hardly be considered normal as per his training. However I do not think that this investigation has stopped there, questions must linked to the flight crew's training, why did the First Officer not take over after repeatedly asking the Captain to abort the landing for instance?
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7th April 2009, 10:44 PM
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Its pretty irrelevant if he is a pilot or not, and his viewpoint is his viewpoint, he can believe what he wants.
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8th April 2009, 07:15 AM
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my view is the same as Adam's, trace back to the other thread and you'll find it all there. The problem isn't just the pilot, its the Indonesian system itself, the training and the need to save face which is deeply engrained throughout our Asian neighbours. They point fingers and get their pound of flesh, but as sure as the sun rises you can bet that there will be other accidents throughout Indonesia, once again, how does putting this man in jail prevent it from re-occurring? comparing a car driver to a pilot is beyond stupid...there is no comparison to be had.
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