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QF 767 Captain removed from flight
From http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-...805-23nv8.html
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BZ to the Cabin Crew for highlighting their concerns to the flight operations managers and BZ for Qantas management for taking immediate action to prevent a potentially catastrophic outcome. Overall, I can't think of a better way in which this very sensitive issue can have been handled.
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I can think of a better way, Ray.
Perhaps the reporting crew should have raised the matter BEFORE pushback, and directly with the crew concerned, rather than through a third party (as seems to have been the case). |
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Actually Hugh Jarse, you are making an assumption. You actually don't know if the cabin crew did raise it with the f/o as the said captain was doing the walk around and were 'palmed off'. Perhaps they were left with no option other than to contact the airport ground manager who was only able to get the a/c returned to blocks after the L1 door was closed and the aircraft had pushed.
Cabin crew are not at fault here. Perhaps even the captain is not at fault, mouthwash anyone ? |
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If the Cabin Crew were so concerned then the L1 door should never have been closed. The cabin crew could have removed themselves from duty before the L1 door was closed, this would have kept the aircraft at the gate.
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Perhaps the cabin crew didn't want to cause a scene and protect the captain by being a little less discrete ( we're not all out to get each other ). Perhaps the f/o remained silent to protect the captain ? Assumptions.
Just don't think blaming anyone, especially cabin crew ( thank you hugh jarse ) is appropriate or fair, especially from a pilot himself who knows the importance of CRM. |
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Actually, Jason A - I'm neither making assumptions nor accusing anyone of anything. I was merely responding to Ray's statement on the handling the situation.
Yes, I'm aware of CRM, Jason. Almost 20 years in the airlines has taught me, if nothing else: You MUST encourage an open line of communication between the flight and cabin crew. They are a vital part of the total safety of the operation. I don't know what happened here. I find it interesting that the doors were closed and the aircraft pushed before any action was taken. Who knows why? I hear ya, Rob. There are plenty of discrete ways to skin a cat |
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Were any of you there?
No? Then can it! This is way too sensitive a subject to be speculating on...! EDIT: OK, speculate away...I just think there's much more to the story than what has been reported in the media, so we can't really use the so far pretty pathetic reporting of it as a basis of fact. Last edited by A McLaughlin; 7th August 2012 at 03:40 PM. |
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I think the moderating team has the final say as to whether we "can it", or not. As for speculation, some of us with airline flight crew backgrounds are merely curious as to why the aircraft dispatched. No doubt, that will become apparent in the not-too-distant future. And asking the question on a bulletin board hardly breaches sensitivities or deserves stifling of genuine discussion. Last edited by Hugh Jarse; 7th August 2012 at 12:57 PM. |
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Interested pax
But for the management intervention, this pilot was apparently prepared to take off.
I for one want to know more in due course. It's not going to go away and be forgotten. So far, it seems to have been well handled, and had it not become public maybe that would have been the end of it. But now that it's public the outcome also needs to become public. Just IMHO!
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