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Old 22nd November 2013, 01:30 PM
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But almost every other operator is now enjoying the fuel savings of the wingletted aircraft but yet QF, as reactive as ever has chosen not to get them...hmmm, so much for a fuel saving idea...
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Old 22nd November 2013, 01:49 PM
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James I think the thing for QF is the 767s weren't planned to remain in the fleet long enough to make back the outlay for the winglets. They were meant to be gone some years ago.
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Old 22nd November 2013, 02:35 PM
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Fuel also relates to performance of GE (QF) vs RR (ex. BA).

Isn't this also caused by the late delivery of the 787's.

If the 787's had been delivered on time the A330/B787 would of probably already replaced the existing 767's.
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Old 23rd November 2013, 06:55 AM
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I think for the short haul flights that the QF 767 are mainly used the winglets would have just added weight with not much benefit. So for that reason I would've never expected Qantas to buy them. I was trying to find the charts that show that. But anyway, medium-long haul is where the numbers start makings sense (ie. AirNZ etc).
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Old 23rd November 2013, 12:42 PM
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I think that you are correct, David. I've seen winglets on 767-300ER's of Air New Zealand, American Airlines, Delta, Hawaiian, Condor & all of these airlines have 7-10 hr sectors that will be more efficiently operated with winglets.
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Old 23rd November 2013, 02:48 PM
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OGV did Sydney to Victorville direct with flight time of 13:51

Not bad for an old girl
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Old 23rd November 2013, 06:57 PM
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I think that you are correct, David. I've seen winglets on 767-300ER's of Air New Zealand, American Airlines, Delta, Hawaiian, Condor & all of these airlines have 7-10 hr sectors that will be more efficiently operated with winglets.
Its a waste of time for the current passenger fleet given cost, 4 week installation timeframe to save 5%, especially given the lower hours the fleet are running, different story for the freighter.
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Old 5th December 2013, 07:42 AM
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The last of the Rollers has out of service and departing on Tuesday morning at this stage
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Old 5th December 2013, 11:49 AM
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I'll miss that whining sound from the RR 767s...
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Old 5th December 2013, 03:54 PM
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-OGV is a 2000 build... "newish" in terms of the global 767 fleet
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