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I personally cannot see what the issue is, but with other world airlines dropping their max bag weight I knew it wouldn't be long before the call came in Australia. As others have said 32 has been fine for some time, and unless I am mistaken all bags over a certain weight (is it 25kg Marty?) are marked as such and handled appropriatly. So provided Qantas is doing the right thing by their workers, providing them with the tools and the procedures to do their job safely why is it such a problem?
One thing though some people are getting worked up over baggage allowances, I would just point out that even if the unions get Qantas to drop to a 20KG bag limit it doesn't mean the allowance has to drop. Shameel, you are close with your comments about US baggage allowances. The US regulations say 2 bags (for Y pax), but they don't mention weight. With Qantas you are right the max is 32Kg per bag, but as I said the Americans are only concened with the number of bags. BA for example have a 2 bag limit with max weht of 23kg on their US flights now. I know this question is O/T but why does the US dictate to airlines baggage allowances. I would have thought it should have been a commercial decision of the airline as to what the limits were not the regulator. |
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US Airways has somehow managed to get around the 2 bags regulation. They are now charging to check in a 2nd bag... http://www.usairways.com/awa/content...epolicies.aspx
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I would assume yes it would have to drop either that or their excess baggage charges go out the window. |
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Would also like to mention that the US / Canada etc. follow the 'piece' system, while the rest of the world abides by the 'weight' system for checked-in bags. Last edited by D Chan; 10th April 2008 at 11:42 PM. |
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Virgin America's policy for Y-pax is that they can check-in only 1 bag for free (32kg/70lbs.)...and a $10 surcharge for the 2nd bag. Makes me wonder how they can have this 1-bag policy if the FAA's policy is that all carriers must allow 2 bags free... Just curious though, wouldn't it be to Qantas' benefit if they agreed to lower their baggage allowance? The lower the bag weights, the move weight savings they make, and the more money they make from overweight baggage fees. Sure the weight savings may not be that noticeable, but every little bit helps when fuel prices keep rising... or am I missing something here? Let's assume: - A QF 744 with 300-pax onboard - Use an average weight of about 25kg per bag (since most don't take a 32kg bag with them, and their 2nd check-in is most likely not as heavy as their first) - 2 bags per passenger (disregard increased weight/number of bag allowances for premium-class passengers) Total baggage weight is: (25 x 2) x 300 = 15,000kg = 15 tonnes If, the limit was lowered to 20kg, then: (20 x 2) x 300 = 12,000kg = 12 tonnes If Qantas agrees to ..say a reduction in weight limit to 23kg, then the airline saves baggage weight, it gains extra money from overweight baggage surcharge fees, keeps the workers happy and the pesky unions off their back, ..and eventhough passengers may moan and groan at first, they really can't complain much since V Australia's free-of-charge weight allowance is 23kg and many other international carriers limit is also 23kg. ... So why hasn't Qantas supported this? (I must be missing or overlooking something here..) Last edited by Shameel Kumar; 11th April 2008 at 09:12 AM. |
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As someone mentioned previously, if this was the case it certainly wasn't raised on ACA. |
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p.s. As for the comment that young workers are trying to erode the working conditions that their previous generations have battled hard for. I have to disagree. I believe the younger generation better understands the business environment of today, the reduced profits associated with certain industries and are prepared to work under conditions which share a middle ground with their employer.
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The thing I dislike about the BA 23kg is when I travel for a work trip I always have around 20-22kg. There are times it is more, times it is less. Without scales at home how the hell do I know if I have too much. Remember the 23kg is a hard bag limit, so if you are over you need another bag. At least with 32kg I know that provided I don't put lead (or several hard back books) in the case I will always be under 32kg. |
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As much as I roll my eyes at unions and their constant demands, it seems like win-win situation for them and Qantas if the baggage allowance weight is dropped to 20/23kg. For those passengers who would abide by the new lower weight level Qantas would save weight (I know, not much), and for those who simply want to bring along everything but the kitchen sink.. well Qantas can charge a decent fee for overweight bags. Quote:
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At the beginning of next year I will be migrating to The States, and I've booked to fly with V Australia. Their free-of-charge weight limit is 23kg each for 2 bags (50lbs) for Y-pax. If I were to fly QF or NZ it'd be 32kg (70lbs). So this will mean I'll have to very carefully watch what I pack, and ultimately leave a few things behind that aren't vital to take with me on the move over there. Sure that'll suck because I'll want to take as many of my possessions as I can, but I made the choice to fly V Australia, so I can't really complain. |
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